robertwright Posted November 13, 2007 Share #41 Posted November 13, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) no steve you are incorrect in understanding that I updated my firmware with a card that still had photos on it. i don't read instructions but i am smart enough to use a "clean" formatted card to do a firmware update. i formatted after the update then took the pictures that are still on the card-come on mate... perhaps a strong magnet like the ones they have at the checkout might scramble it enough to format? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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bradreiman Posted November 13, 2007 Share #42 Posted November 13, 2007 perhaps a strong magnet like the ones they have at the checkout might scramble it enough to format? worth a shot- i have some really BIG speakers that will come out of the air tonight...thanks...B Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott kirkpatrick Posted November 13, 2007 Share #43 Posted November 13, 2007 perhaps a strong magnet like the ones they have at the checkout might scramble it enough to format? last time I looked, SD cards had semiconductor non-volatile memory inside, rather than magnetic storage. This gives them certain advantages in size and shock-resistance, at a cost premium of maybe 100x (decreasing rapidly) in cost per stored bit. So strong magnets should not affect them. But inconsistent interfaces, poor packaging (which some have noticed in the Transcend series) and the FAT file system can do them in. scott Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JGW Posted November 13, 2007 Share #44 Posted November 13, 2007 My camera has developed a peculiar shutter problem since I upgraded to firmware 1_1110. The shutter sometimes sounds as though it is firing off 2-3 shots when I press it, even though the camera is set on single shot mode; I never use continuos mode. When it does this, the camera only exposes the shot I intended to take, so I'm not sure what is going on. Obviously when it does this the camera makes an even greater racket than it usually does. It's unpredictable and therefore disturbing to both me and whoever I'm photographing. Why are these cameras so temperamental? Having followed the different problems people have been having over the past year or so on this forum, I always thought that I was lucky with my M8 as it had been an apparently trouble free camera, with only one 'freezing' moment when the camera seemed to just die. This happened when I accidentally tripped the shutter while the camera was somehow in self timer mode which was unintended. I therefore just switched the camera off before it fired. When I turned it on again it was dead even though the battery was not particularly discharged. Thankfully, when I changed the battery it was okay, and woke up again. Needless to say, I haven't switched the camera off in this way since. I'm thinking of going back to 1_092 if this shutter problem can not solved. I haven't tried the panacea of changing the battery yet. JGW. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Symeon Posted November 14, 2007 Share #45 Posted November 14, 2007 Is there a way to go back to firmaware updating? Get rid of the new one and load the old one again? Does anybody know, or has anyone tried it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stunsworth Posted November 14, 2007 Share #46 Posted November 14, 2007 Simon, you need an older version of the firmware. It will replace the newer version without any problem. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shootist Posted November 14, 2007 Share #47 Posted November 14, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) Is there a way to go back to firmaware updating? Get rid of the new one and load the old one again? Does anybody know, or has anyone tried it? Yes there is, all you need is the older firmware. That is the reason I store ALL of them on one of my hard drives. But why do you want to go back to a older firmware? What is happening that makes you think that is the right thing to do? For the record this may not be possible in the future depending on what copy/version/run of M8 you are using, and or you may not be able to go back to say 1.107 from whatever firmware is currently loaded because the newest M8 originally came with 1.108 which was a updated version to handle some different internal hardware changes. If you tried to load 1.107 it wouldn't see the newest hardware. 1.108 was never released to the general public. Right now version 1.110 is the universal firmware for the M8. It covers all production runs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JGW Posted November 14, 2007 Share #48 Posted November 14, 2007 I've also kept all the firmware updates, but has anyone ever had the shutter problem I've mentioned? I beginning to wonder whether my M8 displayed this shutter repeating problem just once just before I updated. I probably thought it was just one of the cameras intermittent tantrums. JGW. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlc43 Posted November 28, 2007 Share #49 Posted November 28, 2007 My camera has developed a peculiar shutter problem since I upgraded to firmware 1_1110. The shutter sometimes sounds as though it is firing off 2-3 shots when I press it, even though the camera is set on single shot mode; I never use continuos mode. When it does this, the camera only exposes the shot I intended to take, so I'm not sure what is going on. Obviously when it does this the camera makes an even greater racket than it usually does. It's unpredictable and therefore disturbing to both me and whoever I'm photographing. Why are these cameras so temperamental? Having followed the different problems people have been having over the past year or so on this forum, I always thought that I was lucky with my M8 as it had been an apparently trouble free camera, with only one 'freezing' moment when the camera seemed to just die. This happened when I accidentally tripped the shutter while the camera was somehow in self timer mode which was unintended. I therefore just switched the camera off before it fired. When I turned it on again it was dead even though the battery was not particularly discharged. Thankfully, when I changed the battery it was okay, and woke up again. Needless to say, I haven't switched the camera off in this way since. I'm thinking of going back to 1_092 if this shutter problem can not solved. I haven't tried the panacea of changing the battery yet. JGW. I am sad to say that I have had this same problem start in the last week. At first, the shutter would only occasionally clack away, firing again and again, then stop. However, I noted that only one frame was actually stored. Unfortunately, in the last 2 days, the extra firing persists more and more. I think this is a re-cocking of the shutter gone wild. I believe this is NOT a firmware issue as I am one upgrade behind and have made no changes that can account for the new problem. I believe it is a circuitry/hardware problem. Thus, I will send my M8 to NJ, and probably onward to Solms. Rats! I also have the Pulsating LCD problem, (see that recent thread) as well as two horizontal lines, seen only in underexposed frames about at the level of one third and two thirds of the vertical dimension of the sensor. Perhaps all will be fixed. Anticipating a couple of months of being without my M8, I bit the bullet today and bought an Epson RD-1s as a back up camera, as recommended by some on the thread that discusses back ups for the M8. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcbjr Posted November 28, 2007 Share #50 Posted November 28, 2007 I am sad to say that I have had this same problem start in the last week. At first, the shutter would only occasionally clack away, firing again and again, then stop. However, I noted that only one frame was actually stored. Unfortunately, in the last 2 days, the extra firing persists more and more. I think this is a re-cocking of the shutter gone wild. I believe this is NOT a firmware issue as I am one upgrade behind and have made no changes that can account for the new problem. I believe it is a circuitry/hardware problem. Thus, I will send my M8 to NJ, and probably onward to Solms. Rats! I also have the Pulsating LCD problem, (see that recent thread) as well as two horizontal lines, seen only in underexposed frames about at the level of one third and two thirds of the vertical dimension of the sensor. Perhaps all will be fixed. Anticipating a couple of months of being without my M8, I bit the bullet today and bought an Epson RD-1s as a back up camera, as recommended by some on the thread that discusses back ups for the M8. i've had the same multi-shutter-cycle problem for a couple of months, but no other symptoms. will probably send it on another solms vacation before warranty expires. have a backup, but always worry when i'm down to one with no backup. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlc43 Posted November 28, 2007 Share #51 Posted November 28, 2007 I now have to add that while an image did make its way on to the chip--it was NOT an DNG but rather just a JPG! This is a worse problem than I thought! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hans Roggen Posted November 28, 2007 Share #52 Posted November 28, 2007 Guys with the shutter problem, This has nothing to do with firmware i think. There have been a couple of threads about this problem including one that I started ( http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-forum/digital-forum/14161-so-mine-broke-down-too.html ) First it only happened every now and then, but the problem grew worse, so i contacted my dealer. Since it was my second M8 to break down in a couple of weeks time, Leica were very nice and gave me a new camera. Hans Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JGW Posted November 28, 2007 Share #53 Posted November 28, 2007 I thought this thread had moved on so I started another thread http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-forum/leica-m8-forum/39514-shutter-fault.html I didn't realise that other people had had this problem. Also yesterday, for the first time, my camera decided to show me another trick it can do, it successfully pulsated its monitor for me. It's only happened once, but all this is worrying as my camera is now almost a year old. I hope they're not beginning to break down. JGW Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
okram Posted November 28, 2007 Share #54 Posted November 28, 2007 There should be a 2.0 fw. M Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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