Mauribix Posted November 9, 2007 Share #1 Posted November 9, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) Hi guys, can you tell me something more about this version of the noctilux? Is there any issue to know about it?Comparison within E58 and E60 versions? Is there a "better" lens between this couple? Does it worth? cheers Maurizio Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Paul_S Posted November 9, 2007 Share #2 Posted November 9, 2007 Hi Maurizio, As you stated, it is the first version of the f1.0 Noctilux. As far as I am aware of it is OK to use it on the M8. Optically, all f/1.0 versions are the same and can be coded if you like. In case you like to use a UV/IR filter, Leica does not make a E58, however B+W does. If you one second hand, look if the hood is included that belongs to this version. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lightpainter Posted November 9, 2007 Share #3 Posted November 9, 2007 Hi Maurizio, I own this version of the Noctilux (made in Canada) and have used it on my M8 with great joy and good results. I bought the B+W 486 UV/IR 58mm filter for this lens (it's easy to get in Germany, I can help with addresses if you like), and it works really well; some Leica users prefer it because of the hood that can be taken off (sometimes an advantage); some others like the hood that is fixed (2nd version); if the price is o.k. and it has got the hood, I would buy it. Best wishes, Heiner Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Pic A Day Posted November 9, 2007 Share #4 Posted November 9, 2007 it is a fantastic lens, and as far as i know there's no difference to the new version except for the 60mm and the hood. I have the lens and you can see a few examples here: http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-forum/landscape-travel/38152-m8-noctilux-35mm-cron-japan.html I did code mine and I use a b&w filter. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eoin Posted November 9, 2007 Share #5 Posted November 9, 2007 Correct me if I'm wrong, but AFAIK the first version of the Noctilux was a f:/1.2 which was produced from 1966 to 1975 with a model no of 11820. This lens employed 2 hand ground aspherical lenses namely the front and back elements. It's filter size was 58mm. The next version also 58mm had a maximum aperture of f:/1.0 did away with the very hard to produce aspherical elements and reduced the elements from 6 spherical and 2 aspherical to 7 spherical elements. FWIW leica at the time recommended the 1.2 version be tuned to the body it was being used on and while it's wide open performance was reported to be excellent it is not supposed to be as good as the current Noctilux when stopped down. That's about all I know from reading about it, Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 9, 2007 Share #6 Posted November 9, 2007 The filter size of the first Noctilux (1.2/50) was, if I remember right, series VIII or screw in 48mm. There were three versions of the second Noctilux 1.0/50: 58mm filter size an separate hood, 60mm filter size and two different separate hoods and then 60mm filter size and build in hood. str. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jedi996sps Posted November 9, 2007 Share #7 Posted November 9, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) Hi Maurizio, I previously owned the version III of the f1.0 noctilux and eventually sold it because of the problems i was having with M8 ie backfocus....this was when i first got the M8. I recently got the version 1 of the f1.0 noctilux and was amazed to find that it does not backfocus at all and is also sharp..will c if i can something posted later .....and it has not even been 'matched' to my camera as has my 50lux. One of the previous owners did however get it 6 bit coded...looks like it was done properly by leica as the mount looks really new. Its not currently fitted with a filter as i only hav had it a couple of weeks. Also the version 1 feels a bit smaller and lighter than i remember the version III? I hav also read somewhere that the production quality was better (than version II and III)...something to do with the way they polished the glass(?) Hope u enjoy it if u get it. Regards Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
carstenw Posted November 9, 2007 Share #8 Posted November 9, 2007 Noctiluxes which backfocus are out of adjustment. The more serious problem is focus shift, ie. when you focus it perfectly, and shots taken at f/2.8 or f/4 are not sharp. You should test that on yours. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cliffordjim Posted November 10, 2007 Share #9 Posted November 10, 2007 I have had the 58mm filter size Noctilux lens for a few years now and love it. It is a phenomenal lens with the same formula as the current Noctilux but a bit smaller in filter diameter and a great vented hood!! Works beautifully on the M8... dead-on focus. See my website for examples here: http://www.jimclifford.com/portraits Enjoy this lens - it is the bomb!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mauribix Posted November 12, 2007 Author Share #10 Posted November 12, 2007 Thanks guys to you all!, i'm gonna take a tour on it.Should 2850€ a right price for a nearly mint one? cheers Mauri Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chilihead Posted November 12, 2007 Share #11 Posted November 12, 2007 I have had the 58mm filter size Noctilux lens for a few years now and love it. It is a phenomenal lens with the same formula as the current Noctilux but a bit smaller in filter diameter and a great vented hood!! Works beautifully on the M8... dead-on focus. See my website for examples here: http://www.jimclifford.com/portraits Enjoy this lens - it is the bomb!! Jim, I did check out your website and you've just become one of my favorite photographers. Bringing out a strong sense of rapport with your subjects is the real gift in photography. These are masterful images. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
carstenw Posted November 12, 2007 Share #12 Posted November 12, 2007 To me 2850 sounds a little high for a 1st gen, but then, the prices have gone up since Leica stopped making them. You might want to look around a little before dropping the money on this copy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsteve Posted November 12, 2007 Share #13 Posted November 12, 2007 Hi guys,can you tell me something more about this version of the noctilux? Is there any issue to know about it?Comparison within E58 and E60 versions? Is there a "better" lens between this couple? Does it worth? cheers Maurizio I think Leica went from a 58mm to 60mm filter size because the 58mm filters may have caused some vignetting on the Noctilux. Probably not a problem on the M8. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cliffordjim Posted November 12, 2007 Share #14 Posted November 12, 2007 Jim, I did check out your website and you've just become one of my favorite photographers. Bringing out a strong sense of rapport with your subjects is the real gift in photography. These are masterful images. Thanks for the positive feedback. Much appreciated on this steel gray November day. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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