brivadois Posted November 5, 2007 Share #101 Posted November 5, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) With the latest version of the firmware the problem beetween jpeg and dng files (attached files: jpeg left, dng: right) has totally disappeared. I use always AWB now. François Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/37189-rant-on-firmware-updates/?do=findComment&comment=393946'>More sharing options...
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Guest stnami Posted November 5, 2007 Share #102 Posted November 5, 2007 Robert Bergman's monograph "A Kind of Rapture". His philosophy is to "print the negative", ie: let the color go where it wants to go and see what happens....easily said Sean, but one has to be really on the ball and a damn discerning colourist to pull it off. It's hard work getting those subtle red hues to dance around the image. Remember he also picks up that moment"after" and his portraits drift............... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
orjanf Posted November 5, 2007 Share #103 Posted November 5, 2007 Good one Chausse! I can still feel at home Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
marknorton Posted November 5, 2007 Share #104 Posted November 5, 2007 With the latest version of the firmware the problem beetween jpeg and dng files (attached files: jpeg left, dng: right) has totally disappeared.I use always AWB now. François Sorry, but they both look pretty bad to me.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shootist Posted November 5, 2007 Share #105 Posted November 5, 2007 Sorry, but they both look pretty bad to me.... Have to agree but I think he posted images of shot before he did the upgrade. It would be nice to see some after the new firmware upgrade. (If this are with the new firmware they are just as bad as before). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
marknorton Posted November 5, 2007 Share #106 Posted November 5, 2007 François Are you using the anticipated firmware 1.2? They may now look the same but I wouldn't either to look like the examples you posted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sean_reid Posted November 5, 2007 Share #107 Posted November 5, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) ...easily said Sean, but one has to be really on the ball and a damn discerning colourist to pull it off. It's hard work getting those subtle red hues to dance around the image. That's absolutely true. And it is so often the case that an artist explains what he or she does in very simple terms when, in fact, what he or she is doing is anything but simple. When Bob was describing his approach to color, to Ben Lifson and myself, the phrase was always "I just print the negative". But, sticking to simple color film, he came to know exactly what that negative was going to do when "given its head" (my term). And he is, indeed, one of the best colorists in photography. On this same topic, simple statements that encompass complex things. "I see the thing. I feel the thing. I make the thing." - Andre Kertesz "I photography animals." - Garry Winogrand Helen Levitt and I were talking at her kitchen table one afternoon and I asked her what brought her to do certain sets of pictures in color. To paraphrase, she said, "I like color very much but its so much more expensive to work with." <G> This from one of the best color photographers we've yet seen. Cheers, Sean Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnastovall Posted November 5, 2007 Share #108 Posted November 5, 2007 Sean, you are so right about Robert Bergman's work with color. For any one not familiar with it get a copy of "A Kind of Rapture." You'll thank yourself. Here's an essay on Bergman and a few examples of his work. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brivadois Posted November 5, 2007 Share #109 Posted November 5, 2007 Mark, This shot (dng+jpeg) was made with the version before the 1.107. May be the second one is little too much warm but, for me, it's not so bad (it was 9 pm in Paris, 08/06/07). You may not agree with me, but the aim was to show the difference beetwen green jpeg and dng; the AWB is now not an issue (imho). François Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
marknorton Posted November 5, 2007 Share #110 Posted November 5, 2007 François When you say "now", do you mean "with 1.107" or "with 1.2"? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shootist Posted November 5, 2007 Share #111 Posted November 5, 2007 Mark,This shot (dng+jpeg) was made with the version before the 1.107. May be the second one is little too much warm but, for me, it's not so bad (it was 9 pm in Paris, 08/06/07). You may not agree with me, but the aim was to show the difference beetwen green jpeg and dng; the AWB is now not an issue (imho). François Please post Jpg + DNG while using the NEW firmware. The shots of the old AWB problems you posted everyone knows about. We want to see shots using the NEW firmware where YOU SAY the old AWB problem is fixed. (Or are you just a troll)???????????? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brivadois Posted November 5, 2007 Share #112 Posted November 5, 2007 Shootist, Please, just relax. No troll here: probably I made a mistake to post these shots here to explain that, imho, there was no more issue with the 1.107 version for AWB. It seems I bring more confusion and I apologise for that, because I didn't use the 1.2 version. François Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guy_mancuso Posted November 5, 2007 Share #113 Posted November 5, 2007 Firmware coming soon to a theatre near you:D Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hans Roggen Posted November 5, 2007 Share #114 Posted November 5, 2007 Soon as in this week? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shootist Posted November 5, 2007 Share #115 Posted November 5, 2007 Shootist, Please, just relax. No troll here: probably I made a mistake to post these shots here to explain that, imho, there was no more issue with the 1.107 version for AWB. It seems I bring more confusion and I apologise for that, because I didn't use the 1.2 version. François Ok thanks for the explanation. I still see a big difference between shot to shot when using DNG and a real big difference between Jpg+DNG when I have used it, and this is with 1.107. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rondeb Posted November 5, 2007 Share #116 Posted November 5, 2007 Are we collectively holding our breath now??? Any more hints Guy? -ron Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andybarton Posted November 5, 2007 Share #117 Posted November 5, 2007 The firmware is most likely to come when the new lenses arrive. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
delander † Posted November 5, 2007 Share #118 Posted November 5, 2007 Well it has to doesn't it? And lets hope it is not about just adding coding for Summarits. Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
guywalder Posted November 5, 2007 Share #119 Posted November 5, 2007 Are we collectively holding our breath now??? Any more hints Guy?-ron holding your breath while waiting on Leica firmware? your a braver man than I!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guy_mancuso Posted November 5, 2007 Share #120 Posted November 5, 2007 Can't say more but i asked if they can put a description of what is in the update , so there is no guessing and they said they will do that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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