lckt13 Posted October 30, 2007 Share #1 Â Posted October 30, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) Good morning! Â just received my Digilux 3 and Metz 54 MZ 4i with the SCA 3502 Module. the flash shows TTL but the images are GROSSLY OVEREXPOSED! Â i have called Metz 2x and emailed 2x and i believe they are out eating wurst and drinking Becks since no response after 24 hours. lousy customer service. Â Does anyone have tips on how to correct this problem? also i was told the TTL function on both the camera and flash work. did someone tell a fib? i have been on Nikon D40,50, AND 70 platforms along with SB-600 and 800 flashes that worked like a dream. Â thanks:cool: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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wparsonsgisnet Posted October 30, 2007 Share #2 Â Posted October 30, 2007 Hank, Welcome. Â I have used the 54 with both my D2 and M8. Â Neither of these cameras offers TTL and the Metz will talk to them either in GNC-mode (which involves a pre-flash for evaluation) or in Auto. Â I don't like the pre-flash and always use Auto with the camera set to 1/250. The Metz always calculates the correct lighting for these 2 cameras. Â I don't know about the ttl in the D3, but suggest you try Auto and see if you like it. The Metz is top-drawer in my view. Â Regards, Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lckt13 Posted October 30, 2007 Author Share #3 Â Posted October 30, 2007 Congrats on world series! great games. wish San Francisco had even a decent team and manager and owner. all loosers. Â i find it hard to believe i spent this amount of $$$ to find no TTL capability. thanks for your input and i will give it a go. i take it you mean to set the flash to auto. Â still waiting for Metz to email and call. horrible customer service! Â Hank of Marin County CA:cool: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wparsonsgisnet Posted October 30, 2007 Share #4 Â Posted October 30, 2007 Hank, yes, set the Metz to auto and the lens to the aperture indicated by the Metz. Â This combo has never given me a bad exposure. On the other hand the GNC-mode usually underexposes for me. I could correct by changing the EI in the M8 but I don't like pre-flash, so always use Auto. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lckt13 Posted October 30, 2007 Author Share #5  Posted October 30, 2007 thanks again  the flash lets me set an aperture by using the wheel by the lens icon. should i set that to 2.8 since that is the Auto exposure setting shooting in automatic mode with the camera? i have the ability with the Digilux 3 to change the A and also the flash  Hank Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lckt13 Posted October 30, 2007 Author Share #6 Â Posted October 30, 2007 i have called twice and emailed twice to the USA office with NO RESPONSE AFTER 24 HOURS! to technical questions i have about my new Metz flash that aren't answered in the manual. Â This is unaccpetable service. if i wanted a slow response i would have written a snail mail letter. the purpose of the phone and email is for rapid communications and rapid responses. i have received neither. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wparsonsgisnet Posted October 30, 2007 Share #7  Posted October 30, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) thanks again the flash lets me set an aperture by using the wheel by the lens icon. should i set that to 2.8 since that is the Auto exposure setting shooting in automatic mode with the camera? i have the ability with the Digilux 3 to change the A and also the flash  Hank  Hank, I would set the shutter to 1/250, as mentioned already, and the aperture to something smaller if I desired more DOF. You can dial the same aperture into the Metz. It the Metz runs out of light, set your ISO higher in order to get a smaller aperture.  I would expect that you can get f8 out of the slowest ISO on your camera in any inside room that doesn't have a cathedral ceiling. Chimping is the best!  I have never tried to contact Metz, but their documentation could be better and the sales guys at the camera stores don't seem to know much. Hang in there and depend upon the people in this forum. This group is phenomenal -- and they're nice guys. How bad is that? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lckt13 Posted October 30, 2007 Author Share #8  Posted October 30, 2007 if you are an indication of the quality of members i am in really good hands.! thanks  still no call or email from Metz. no wonder the stores are no longer stocking their items!  Hank:D Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wparsonsgisnet Posted October 30, 2007 Share #9 Â Posted October 30, 2007 We can no longer go by what stores stock. Â What they usually stock is some piece of drek with a nice margin. What they tell you comes from the mouths of babes. Â What you want, you can find with careful web searches and advice. And, you can buy it on the web. Â Today, for instance, I got a item on eBay that I have been waiting to buy at my price for 2 months. 'Grats to me. Â The web is amazing and so is the amount of light from a Metz strobe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dugby Posted October 30, 2007 Share #10 Â Posted October 30, 2007 Hank, I use the 3202M5 on my Metz 40MZ3i with my L1/D3, and have not been that happy with my Metz flash photos on Auto, until I put a soft fabric diffuser over the main reflector. Â For now the twin reflector shots are unsatisfactory. I have to work on this. Â The 40MZ3i with a 3502M4 on my D2 takes wonderful shots, especially with the twin reflectors. Â So I was keen to purchase a 54MZ4i, but now am concerned after reading about your experiences. Does the ZOOM function for the main reflector work on your 54MZ4i ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lckt13 Posted October 30, 2007 Author Share #11  Posted October 30, 2007 Aloha Dugby  yes the zoom works on the 54. i just ordered an opaque diffuser that i also used on my nikon sb-600 and 800 which worked well to tone down the flash. also just ordered a photoflex on camera large softbox to use for portraits/wedding/headshots etc. \\if you have anymore questions this is the place to post them.  good luck! Hank Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dugby Posted October 31, 2007 Share #12 Â Posted October 31, 2007 Hank, I had trouble with a plastic Stoffen diffuser, as it would refract light through the botton of the diffuser to the Metz flash sensor too earlier, causing drastic too earlier flash cut-off. Â So I next bought a white fabric diffuser, whereby the base of the diffuser is black on the outside and silver on the inside. This works much better as no 'stray' flash light gets to the Metz sensor early. So now these shots are very suitable. Â I'm not convinced that the non-Panasonic external flash options are that great at the moment on a D3/L1, as when I switch to the little in-built L1 flash, this takes better flash shots. Â I still have to do a bit more testing, as I want to try and get some 'soft' Metz lighting on my L1 working better. Â The frustrating thing is that it works wonderfully on my D2, but it is very unpredicatable on my L1. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wparsonsgisnet Posted October 31, 2007 Share #13 Â Posted October 31, 2007 Sorry, forgot to mention that I use a Stoffen diffuser. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lckt13 Posted October 31, 2007 Author Share #14  Posted October 31, 2007 THANKS!  i have used them for years on my nikon flashes and now one on its way for the Metz  Hank Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lckt13 Posted November 1, 2007 Author Share #15  Posted November 1, 2007 update on the Metz flash, modules, Leica and Nikon  i used the Metz with the recommended module sca 3502 on the Leica on Automatic and it worked wonderfully with the Stofen diffuser.  Then i saw the hotshoe on my Nkon D40 which has the same 3 prongs as the Leica hotshoe.SO i hooked the Metz up, shot 5 virtual tours and they are perfect!  when i went to the Metz site they recommeded the SCA 3402 for the Nikon D40!  SAVE YOUR MONEY FOLKS! the SCA 3502 works on the Leica Digilux 3 AND the Nikon D40.  Glory Hallelujah!  Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fotmaesron Posted November 1, 2007 Share #16  Posted November 1, 2007 Hallo, i use the digilux 3 with metz 58 AF_1 O (olympus) digital, this works not with leica adaptor but with olympus contacts, maybe thats why your results arent good, greets  Fotmaesron Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbretteville Posted November 1, 2007 Share #17  Posted November 1, 2007 Hank, I'm pleased that yu got the 3502 to work OK for you on the D3, non the less this is from Metz' website and shows the 3202M5 as the one to use for the camera, as mentioned by dugby.  Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/36888-digilux-3-and-metz-flashesmodules/?do=findComment&comment=391202'>More sharing options...
lckt13 Posted November 2, 2007 Author Share #18  Posted November 2, 2007 many thanks for the correction about the sca 3202. the Live Chat at B&H said to order the 2502 which i did. i will call on Monday to exchange for a 3202 thanks to you!  have a great weekend  Hank:cool: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Bulgaria Posted November 3, 2007 Share #19 Â Posted November 3, 2007 Make sure that your 3202 order specifies that you need the "M5 or greater" version. I had a similar problem with a Canon 20D and a Metz 40 MZ-3i. I ordered the SCA 3102 from my local dealer however it didn't work. A quick check with the Metz importer told me that I needed the M3 version as the SCA adapter had been "modified" to allow it to work with the 20D. I guess that as the pins were the same, this was either to do with the voltage or the firmware of the adapter. The dealer hadn't known this when they ordered and hence they had just been supplied with the older, none modified version. Â I had a different problem when it came to ordering the 3202 M5 for my Digilux 3, the dealer just couldn't get one for me as he had been told it was "to be replaced with an M6"!! Anyway as this adaper would only offer Auto & manual with my 40 MZ-3i I decided it was time to change and after asking on this forum, I bought the 58 AF 1O, which as been great (so far!)! Â Anyway it is likely that there are still some "none" M5 and below adapters out there, so make sure the dealer you are ordering from gets the correct version for you!! Don't be affraid of taking your camera & flash into the dealers and trying them out to prove it works. Of course that might be difficult if it was ordered over the internet:rolleyes: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lckt13 Posted November 3, 2007 Author Share #20 Â Posted November 3, 2007 Many thanks for the update Uncle! Â i gotta tell you this is damn complicated when ordering online even from a place like B&H. and Metz offers NO repeat no technical support. it is the worst non customer service i have ever experienced. Â thanks to you and other members we get these problems solved. perhaps their reps should read these daily posts! Â HM Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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