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Tech sheet downloads and sample images are available on the uk.leica-camera.com website now.

The lenses do look nice and the tech sheets claim they are not quite as good as the App-Summicrons, but probably I would not notice unless my handling, focusing and exposure were spot on.  Much, much cheaper add lighter than the Apo equivalents.

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I'd be interested in a comparison of the 35TL f1.4 on an SL2  with the new 50SL f2, very similar size and weight 

Still enough resolution I expect, maybe not on SL2s

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19 hours ago, Kristofferpaulsen said:

I think the 1972 images (yes I know i have it wrong) look great.. not too much post, just contrast and a bit of a colour grade.. the DOF is great, and the sharpness all there. Consistent with the look i’d expect from a ‘cron, and from my 60 second test at the store. I’m in!

I agree with you, the DOF and sharpness look great. But same can be said about the Panasonics, and users on this forum have been posting really great images made with these lenses. Until we get a side by side comparison, it is hard to assess if the the Leica is worth the extra 1500€ or not from an image standpoint. I'm excluding personal preferences for metal barrels, physical look of the lens etc etc which are all valid reasons to choose one instead of the other.   

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I just have sold one of my SL APO 35mm to a guy who recently got the SL summicron 50mm and 35mm, according to him he could tell the differences between the APO and non-APO. He will purchase another APO 50mm once he sell off the new SL summicron 35mm and 50mm. 

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19 hours ago, huwm said:

I'd be interested in a comparison of the 35TL f1.4 on an SL2  with the new 50SL f2, very similar size and weight 

Still enough resolution I expect, maybe not on SL2s

I have and use my 35TL 1.4 on my SL2 as my main AF 50 ish mm lens. File size is fine, they're only like 6 MB's smaller than the 24mp sensors. I am going to purchase a new 50 ASPH and will definitely post a comparison. ......I can say, having used the 50 ASPH on my SL2 that the AF on the ASPH is light years ahead of my TL .

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Here's a folder with all the pics and crops I took at the Leica Store Bellevue with zero processing except converting from RAW to JPEG in LR. 

Basically the same as I posted earlier but with a few more.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/jyzXurVjXnPdHq5X9

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shot yesterday just a try out shot think you might need to be a bit closer with the non apo .

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 For those who have the cash, these are great lenses, but whoever thinks they are getting image quality over the panas it's lying to themselves. These are the same Pana lenses rehaused by Leica. 

Honesty I would prefer to get the Leica lenses over the Pana  due to the construction. The panas feel like cheap plastic lenses, not saying that they won't last, (I have a pana 24mm and the Leica 35mm sl apo), but the feeling is not really nice. Of course the plastic feeling helps keep the weight down, but I wouldn't mind a bit more of metal. 

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40 minutes ago, Malabito said:

whoever thinks they are getting image quality over the panas it's lying to themselves. These are the same Pana lenses rehaused by Leica.

You know this because you work for Leica?

Optics is a game of nanometres. Just the assembly and calibration steps make a huge difference, even if the lens elements are exactly the same (we don't know that they are, or who ground/polished them). Do you know what tolerances are used in Panasonic's  and Leica's factories? What about pass/fail thresholds? What are the differences in construction that might affect long-term performance?

It's ironic that you used the term "rehouse," because rehousing cine lenses involves a lot more work than just adding a metal cover. A rehoused lens (when done by a reputable firm) should perform better than the original, optically and mechanically.

 

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2 hours ago, Malabito said:

 For those who have the cash, these are great lenses, but whoever thinks they are getting image quality over the panas it's lying to themselves. These are the same Pana lenses rehaused by Leica. 

Honesty I would prefer to get the Leica lenses over the Pana  due to the construction. The panas feel like cheap plastic lenses, not saying that they won't last, (I have a pana 24mm and the Leica 35mm sl apo), but the feeling is not really nice. Of course the plastic feeling helps keep the weight down, but I wouldn't mind a bit more of metal. 

It's funny because they are not built in the same factory (Leica ones are built in Portugal, not China), and the MTF curves are not the same. Well not the same lenses in fact...
 

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2 hours ago, BernardC said:

Do you know what tolerances are used in Panasonic's  and Leica's factories? What about pass/fail thresholds? What are the differences in construction that might affect long-term performance?

Given one lens can be found for 350€ and the other 2000€, you could buy 5 Panasonics for the price of one Leica, shot all of them one next to each other, keep the two best performers and send the other three back and still save more than 50% of the price. The second lens can be kept for "long-term performance" when the first will allegedly fail (never happened to me). 

The only reason for me to buy the Leica version is if the performance is higher, but until there's a direct Leica/Panasonic comparison, that's hard to say   

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On 2/9/2023 at 7:29 AM, Stuart Richardson said:

Seriously? The SL2 has 23 extra megapixels, better handling, better viewfinder, doesn’t smear the corners of M lenses and is built like a tank. If I had to buy again today I would in a heartbeat. I think you should have some allowance that your needs are not universal, and that the newest thing is not necessarily the greatest thing. For me, for example, phase detect is totally irrelevant. I work as a photographer and could use anything I want, and yet even today, I would choose the SL2 over every other camera in the market…even Leica’s own offerings or Phase One etc. 

I agree with you, and I am also a working photographer as a well as getting a masters degree in photography. I have both the sl2 &sl2s and they really have become a joy to use. I’m disappointed there is no live view support on capture one, but Leica fotos on an iPad is so easy to use. 
 

My teachers comment on how good my sooc files look. 

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