pgmj Posted October 27, 2007 Share #21 Â Posted October 27, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) I upgraded yesterday without trouble (10.3 -> 10.4 also went without issues on release day) and have set up an external drive for Time Machine. It creates a folder with a package file containing different backup sessions, which are browseable like a normal file system with files accessible. The first backup does take a while to complete... you can select folders to omit from the TM backup, which can be useful. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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spylaw4 Posted October 27, 2007 Share #22 Â Posted October 27, 2007 Brian, did you have email trouble with dotMac recently? It was so bad for me (I lost several important emails, irrecoverably) that I switched wholesale to Google Mail. I don't like the idea of a search engine managing my emails, but broken email is even worse. I cancelled my dotMac membership, so TimeMachine is timely for me, replacing Backup. Â Carsten, I don't seem to have had any major glitches with dotmac in the recent past. It does go slow now and then, but that may simply be general internet loading. One thing I have found is that emails from some corporate sources tend not to sync properly with Mail.app. They are not lost by simply sitting in dotmac mail. Once one enters dotmac and reads them they sync fine. I suspect this is something to do with the corporate systems email security not allowing auto forwarding or something. Did you look in dotmac as well as Mail? Maybe it will be fixed in 10.5. I've just renewed my dotmac as with 10Gb its good storage and my photo websites are on there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
spylaw4 Posted October 27, 2007 Share #23 Â Posted October 27, 2007 I've just had another thought Carsten. There was some disruption to dotmac when they did the storage upgrade from 1 to 10 Gb. Did your email problem happen at that time? If so then that could be the explanation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andybarton Posted October 27, 2007 Share #24 Â Posted October 27, 2007 I love my Macs, but this has to be one of the worst OS upgrades I have ever done. And I've been around since System 6... Apart from making the interface look like some terrible shareware skin from 10 years ago, I am really struggling to see where my eighty five quid went. Â They should have sold TimeMachine for twenty quid and not bothered with the rest. Â If this is leagues ahead of Vista, then that really must be a pile of [insert your word here] Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
topoxforddoc Posted October 27, 2007 Share #25  Posted October 27, 2007 The Time machine backup issue seems to be everyone's main like about it. personally i won't go to Leopard yet as my Tiger is running fine on my Mac Pro. For my backups, I use Bounce Back pro from CMS. This does incremental backups and IS bootable. It won Mac product of the year in 2003 when it came out as part of CMS products ABS backup drive system. You can either buy the drives with the software or the software separately.  CMS BounceBack Professional Backup and Disaster Recovery Software  Good luck  Charlie Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stunsworth Posted October 27, 2007 Share #26  Posted October 27, 2007 Some may find this useful if they're unable to log in after the upgrade...  Mac OS X 10.5: Unable to log in to account after an upgrade install  I went to the Apple shop in Manchester on my way to Dave Dunnico's excellent exhibition at Salford last night. I took one look at the length of the queue outside the shop and decided not to bother. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andybarton Posted October 27, 2007 Share #27 Â Posted October 27, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) Spend the eighty five quid on something else Steve. I wish I had. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
spylaw4 Posted October 27, 2007 Share #28  Posted October 27, 2007 I love my Macs, but this has to be one of the worst OS upgrades I have ever done. And I've been around since System 6... Apart from making the interface look like some terrible shareware skin from 10 years ago, I am really struggling to see where my eighty five quid went. They should have sold TimeMachine for twenty quid and not bothered with the rest.  If this is leagues ahead of Vista, then that really must be a pile of [insert your word here]  Interesting comment Andy. Have you had a look through the Leopard feature articles on Appleinsider to get an idea of all the new things included in the OS? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andybarton Posted October 27, 2007 Share #29  Posted October 27, 2007 I did. They reckon there are 300 new things.  Erm... maybe  Certainly the big ticket headliners leave much to be desired (apart from TimeLine, which could be sold off separately anyway, as I said) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnjs Posted October 27, 2007 Share #30  Posted October 27, 2007 Here's all 300 new features: Apple - Mac OS X Leopard - Features - 300+ New Features  Cover-flow file browsing and Spaces look interesting, as well as Time Machine. I look forward to the OS on my next Mac, but probably won't upgrade my current machine. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andybarton Posted October 27, 2007 Share #31 Â Posted October 27, 2007 Coverflow allows you to view your files in the same way that you view album covers in iTunes. (Why iTunes should be the new paradigm for file navigation, I haven't quite worked out. No doubt it's because many new converts to Apple would have cove through iTunes being the first Apple app to which they have been exposed. Doesn't make it logical though) Â However, using the CoverFlow interface, if you have a sub-folder, within a folder, and double click on that in the "album cover" section, the new window will open up behind the original one. Not good. Â I have been playing with this for one morning and I have already found at least two bugs. And I am not a beta tester. Â I'd leave well alone until 10.5.1 at least... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JHellow Posted October 28, 2007 Share #32 Â Posted October 28, 2007 Hi all: Â I have been lurking and enjoying ths forum for a year. I have an R8 with DMR. I also have a 17" MacBook Pro Core 2 Duo that was running 10.4.10. I did the 10.5 Upgrade and Install and it trashed my hard drive. The first go around the install hung with an an error massage and a restart option that froze the machine. After rebooting, the install hung a couple of hours in. I then tried an archive and install and I continued to get error codes. I checked the disk with disk utility before any of the installs and with Tech tools Pro and the drive and data structure all read fine. I ended up erasing a Windows partition on the drive, installed 10.5 on that partition and the old Mac partition mounted. I then tried migrating the data from the old partition and Migration tool ran fine for a couple of hours and then reported errors. Nothing on the old partition is readable. Â Most of my photos were backed up, but I am missing a couple of weeks worth. Â Lesson. Either wait for 10.5.1 or make sure everything in your back up is current. Â But for the install issues, 10.5 is running fine on my new partition. It is faster and there are a bunch of neat features in the new OS. New drive gets installed tomorrow so this one can go to data recovery. Â JHellow Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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