M11 with Canon Speedlite 470EX-AI

[schimmey]

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Good morning all,

i have the above 2 and wondered if I can connect them together:

1. on the hot-shoe itself?

2. via some kind of cord - my preference - and if so which?

I assume it is not possible to link via Wi-Fi?

Many thanks. 

Paul

[Photoworks]

WIFI? how would you do that? the flash does not have any.

any flash not from Leica on the hotshoe is going to be manual only. few exceptions with the new triggers that will be compatible at one point.

Do you know how to use it in manual?

[DenverSteve]

Let's see. You have both so why don't you push the flash onto the hot-shoe, turn it on and .... experiment ???? If the flash will work it will be manual only.  No - no cable. 

[dugby]

Before any flash not documented by Leica for your M11, one should always consider (check) the flash’s trigger voltage. Some flashes can have a trigger voltage that will fry modern digital M cameras.

Here’s a starting site to consider 

https://www.botzilla.com/page/strobeVolts.html

Edited January 31, 2023 by dugby

[charlesphoto99]

2 hours ago, dugby said:

Before any flash not documented by Leica for your M11, one should always consider (check) the flash’s trigger voltage. Some flashes can have a trigger voltage that will fry modern digital M cameras.

Here’s a starting site to consider 

https://www.botzilla.com/page/strobeVolts.html

I think this has been proven to be something of a bogeyman, as the M bodies supposedly can handle up to 600V protection, so it would have to be a really old or wonky flash (but I could be wrong). Canons though just aren't the best choice for M's I believe as the pin arrangement is wrong. Better to go with Nikon, or one of the aftermarket flashes. But yeah, few if any other than Leica flashes will have TTL or even auto (imo auto is better than TTL due to no pre-flash, but is offered on very few modern flashes). Manual though is a lot easier to use than most people expect. 

[Photoworks]

2 minutes ago, charlesphoto99 said:

Better to go with Nikon, or one of the aftermarket flashes.

Some people may think Nikon is better for Leica, the pin are in the same place. but in reality 2pin are inverted, making the camera often confused and unresponsive.
But you can use the Nikon extension cable for Leica flash, since the connection are only extended from hot-shoe.

the middle pin is a general standard and most flashes should work in manual mode with the middle pin trigger. if you already have a flash you can cover the other contacts with thin scotch tape.

I found a very small flack from godox to work very well on the M11, it is light, only 2 batteries and can be tilted up, TT350. I am using a Sony mount and only middle pix is exposed.

[charlesphoto99]

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2 minutes ago, Photoworks said:

Some people may think Nikon is better for Leica, the pin are in the same place. but in reality 2pin are inverted, making the camera often confused and unresponsive.
But you can use the Nikon extension cable for Leica flash, since the connection are only extended from hot-shoe.

the middle pin is a general standard and most flashes should work in manual mode with the middle pin trigger. if you already have a flash you can cover the other contacts with thin scotch tape.

I found a very small flack from godox to work very well on the M11, it is light, only 2 batteries and can be tilted up, TT350. I am using a Sony mount and only middle pix is exposed.

Ah, thanks for clarifying that. 

[dugby]

 

Refer you to two sections of the M11 manual

https://leica-camera.com/sites/default/files/pm-73222-Leica-M11_Instructions_en.pdf

 

Page 10 

FLASH
• The use of incompatible flash units with your Leica M11 may result in irreparable damage to the camera and/or the flash unit.

 

Page 120
Important
• The use of incompatible flash units with your Leica M11 may result in irreparable damage to the camera and/or the flash unit.