Paul Hart Posted October 22, 2007 Share #21 Posted October 22, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) Here's another, for which it was stopped down to about f4 (from memory). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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TEBnewyork Posted October 22, 2007 Share #22 Posted October 22, 2007 FTR I don't own any multiple versions of lenses in the same focal length. Re my decision, I just went through comparing 35's for the M8 and after comparing the 35 Cron Asph, 35 Lux Asph, 35 Lux Pre-Asph and this 35 version IV, I kept the version IV. HOWEVER, the IV is NOT as sharp wide open as the 35 Cron Asph, nor does it have as much contrast, so if those are important to you, then the Asph may be the better choice. Basically, they are all great lenses with slightly different rendering characteristics, and a good case can be made for keeping any one of them over the others. I kept the IV simply because I love the way it renders, as Guy's images show. Cheers, My bad Jack! But thanks for helping. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_tribble Posted October 22, 2007 Share #23 Posted October 22, 2007 11879 11882 2.0/35mm Summicron-M ASPH - current M39x0.5 12526 14043 14038 E3911310 11311 2.0/35mm Summicron-M - current M39x0.5 12524 - 14268 E39 11309 - 2.0/35mm Summicron-M 2.974.250 1971-1979 M39x0.5 12504 - 14268 S7**/E39 11309 - 2.0/35mm Summicron-M 2.483.503 1969-1971 - 12504 - 14268 S7** 11308 11308 2.0/35mm Summicron-M 2.307.450 1958-1969 M39x0.5 12538 14033 14268 E39 I believe this is it but maybe someone can confirm this for me. Guy - I'm confused by these numbers. The list that I've found here: Leica M Lens Price Guide seems to make more sense. And HEY! I've found that my 35 cron (the first leica lens I ever bought) is a series 4 - always thought it was a lovely lens and now feel smug that my good taste has been confirmed! Enjoy yours when you get it. Best Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlm Posted October 22, 2007 Share #24 Posted October 22, 2007 I'd love to see an example of the same shot with two different 35's to compare this wonderous bokeh effect. surely Guy must have several 35's, eh? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guy_mancuso Posted October 22, 2007 Share #25 Posted October 22, 2007 Paul that is good that it is yours and a forum member than good luck with your sale and someone on your side the of water should grab it. LOL That info I posted was from Erwins list and certainly could be off Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guy_mancuso Posted October 22, 2007 Share #26 Posted October 22, 2007 No John just the version IV is all I have now. John BTW i picked up a CV15 too, need a hood and what filter size do I need. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott kirkpatrick Posted October 22, 2007 Share #27 Posted October 22, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) I think Carsten ran a thread on this subject a few months back. There were differences in the shots that showed up, although very hard to see at web resolution. For another comparison, how about the rendering of medium scale detail in the midtones of b/w images -- the subject that Walt Odets keeps coming back to? scott Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie Roberts Posted October 22, 2007 Share #28 Posted October 22, 2007 FTR I don't own any multiple versions of lenses in the same focal length. {snipped} Now, Jack, FTR, I bet you have at least two 50s. One of which is very fast! LOL!! I'm just pulling Jack's leg. FWIW, I love the look of a lot of the pre-ASPH lenses too. Having said that, since my 35 Lux ASPH is one of the ones with no focus issues, that's the one that's staying on the M8. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlm Posted October 22, 2007 Share #29 Posted October 22, 2007 Guy: the filter is the 39mm Leica and I have the hood/adapters in stock jm@milich.com Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lars_bergquist Posted October 22, 2007 Share #30 Posted October 22, 2007 The v. 4 Summicron was manufactured from late 1979 to 1996, when the ASPH took over. First serial no. was 2 974 251. My own specimen is a 1983 'jubilee' version and came with the similarly engraved M4-P and an engraved Tele-Elmarit when I bought the kit at an auction, for some 1200 euros or 1700 U.S. dollars, at current exchange rates – but that was nearly ten years ago. Now I fear that Guy has talked the going price up another notch ... But a lovely little lens it is. The old man from the Age of Film Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pemayeux Posted October 22, 2007 Share #31 Posted October 22, 2007 Now, Jack, FTR, I bet you have at least two 50s. One of which is very fast! LOL!! I'm just pulling Jack's leg. FWIW, I love the look of a lot of the pre-ASPH lenses too. Having said that, since my 35 Lux ASPH is one of the ones with no focus issues, that's the one that's staying on the M8. I too a a 35 lux asph that has no focus issues and honestly I cannot tell much difference, if any, in the way it renders compared to the version iv. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonoslack Posted October 22, 2007 Share #32 Posted October 22, 2007 Now I fear that Guy has talked the going price up another notch ... But a lovely little lens it is. The old man from the Age of Film He's a devil isn't he - and there was me carefully watching that one on the UK ebay - thinking I might get it (especially as it's listed in the wrong section). Then BAM it goes up £100 in 20 minutes and I haven't got a prayer. Guy - where are you GUY!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guy_mancuso Posted October 22, 2007 Share #33 Posted October 22, 2007 sorry Jono at airport heading home been a awesome Workshop. John hook me up. I will paypal tonight . Send paypal info Check in later Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonoslack Posted October 22, 2007 Share #34 Posted October 22, 2007 sorry Jono at airport heading home been a awesomeWorkshop. I will never forgive you . . . . I really WANTED that lens . . . . and now everything is ruined . . . To tell the truth, you've probably saved me from another lens which I love, but don't use much 35mm just doesn't seem to be my bag. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philinflash Posted October 22, 2007 Share #35 Posted October 22, 2007 Guy, or others, any propensity to flare in the IV like there is in the ASPH? While I like shooting with the 35 Cron ASPH with the source of light behind me, I have had huge problems shooting anywhere into the light, even if slightly out-of-frame. I have compared it to the Zeiss M 35/2 which performs much better into the light. Obviously, all Leica M lenses and hoods have been optimized for film cameras, so they let in more light than the M8 with its smaller sensor absolutely requires. I am going to fashion a more restrictive lens hood but I am not optimistic that it will solve the problem. See attached image from Paddington Station in London. Now, I don't mind the blown-out skylights but I would strongly prefer not to have the blue wash over the whole image. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/36302-im-a-believer/?do=findComment&comment=382897'>More sharing options...
gogopix Posted October 22, 2007 Share #36 Posted October 22, 2007 might be more the autowhitebalance etc. dont see any classic flare (lens wouldnt spread like that unless fogged) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philinflash Posted October 22, 2007 Share #37 Posted October 22, 2007 might be more the autowhitebalance etc.dont see any classic flare (lens wouldnt spread like that unless fogged) Victor, the lens isn't fogged; I've got many other contemporaneous shots that make that clear. The extraneous light might be screwing up the AWB, but I still call it "flare." Its intensity is clearly graduated away from the light source. I have plenty of other examples from different situations. In many of those, AWB is not affected. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
carstenw Posted October 22, 2007 Share #38 Posted October 22, 2007 I never saw that kind of behaviour with my 35 Cron Asph. When I had a IV to compare it with, the latter would flare far more easily. In fact, more like your image does. Weird. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
farnz Posted October 22, 2007 Share #39 Posted October 22, 2007 For comparison, here's a shot of my, ahem, runabout showing the 35 Cron ASPH's bokeh. Pete. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/36302-im-a-believer/?do=findComment&comment=382922'>More sharing options...
Jack_Flesher Posted October 22, 2007 Share #40 Posted October 22, 2007 Now, Jack, FTR, I bet you have at least two 50s. One of which is very fast! LOL!! LOLOL! Actually while that very fast 50 does happen to be in my possesion, it is not technically "my lens"... In fact, I suspect you'll see it on eBay within the week Cheers, Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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