Guido Posted December 17, 2009 Share #21 Posted December 17, 2009 Advertisement (gone after registration) they are no selling it for £699 and it is only a couple of months oldCarl Zeiss 25mm f2.8 Biogon ZM Silver boxed as new I have to admit - this would sound tempting if it were not for the price... the lens sells brand new for only £100 more... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted December 17, 2009 Posted December 17, 2009 Hi Guido, Take a look here Zeiss 25mm biogon question. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
brill64 Posted December 17, 2009 Share #22 Posted December 17, 2009 john millich's stuff is great! he's a real solutionist and filled some huge holes with the m8. i for one just want to go totally off topic and say thanks! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisC Posted December 17, 2009 Share #23 Posted December 17, 2009 Jono - With no offence intended to JM, but you can get the lens flange milled in the UK by Malcolm Taylor in Herefordshire. He's 'old school', has a telephone, but no web-site, and doesn't charge VAT. I'm fairly sure Chris Tribble uses him. Hope this helps. .............. Chris Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
viramati Posted December 17, 2009 Share #24 Posted December 17, 2009 I spoke to him a while ago and I think he will only 6 bit code a lens but I could be wrong Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Monen Posted December 17, 2009 Share #25 Posted December 17, 2009 Jono, I just purchased a 25mm biogon from Tony Rose at Popflash, and as I understand, Tony orders the lenses from Zeiss with a flange that brings up the the 24mm frame lines. It is not necessary to do anything else, unless you want to code the lens. Mine brings up the 24mm frame lines. The price is going up in January. David Monen Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobdubois Posted December 17, 2009 Share #26 Posted December 17, 2009 I bought a 25/2,8 Biogon with the mount already changed from Popflash photo, (See: Zeiss Biogon 25mm f2.8 T* Silver ZM USA NEW! MODIFIED FOR M8 RANGEFINDER FRAME LINES!) which I then hand coded using a Dremel tool to mill in the three black marks in the coding scheme. It works like a charm. I'm not sure if it would be less expensive for you than buying the lens locally and getting an additional mount from Zeiss. (I tried to buy the mount for my 21/2,8 directly from Zeiss but they wouldn't provide just the part) So, I sent the lens to Popflash and they modified it (or had it done) for slightly less than the price Zeiss quoted. No relation to Tony Rose, the proprietor of Popflash, simply a happy customer. Regards, Bob Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dNorm Posted December 18, 2009 Share #27 Posted December 18, 2009 Advertisement (gone after registration) Hi Jono. Depending on the version of the Zeiss 25/2.8, a new mount may not be an option. I had one of the earlier 25/2.8 ZM's, which brought up the 28mm framelines and was told by Richard Schleuning of Zeiss USA that the position of the screws for the bayonet is different on the new one and would not work with the earlier 25/2.8. Something to keep in mind. -Norm HI thereI'm teetering on the brink of buying one of these lenses, and I realise that I'll need to get a new mount from Zeiss to get the framelines, then send it to John Milich to get the coding. However, my question is this: If I buy the lens with the normal mount and hand code it with a sharpie, will it recognise it as a 24mm elmarit even though it doesn't bring up the correct framelines? The point being that if it DOES work hand coded, I can get the lens straightaway and then fiddle about with mounts etc. whilst using it hand coded. If not, then there isn't much point in getting the lens until I have a coded mount to put on it. any help gratefully received Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ljclark Posted December 20, 2009 Share #28 Posted December 20, 2009 Hi Jono. Depending on the version of the Zeiss 25/2.8, a new mount may not be an option. I had one of the earlier 25/2.8 ZM's, which brought up the 28mm framelines and was told by Richard Schleuning of Zeiss USA that the position of the screws for the bayonet is different on the new one and would not work with the earlier 25/2.8. Something to keep in mind. -Norm Jono's post was from 2007. I think he's figured things out by now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dNorm Posted December 20, 2009 Share #29 Posted December 20, 2009 Doh! It didn't even occur to me to look at the date. So, LJ, how did you like the snow we got this weekend?! I'm on the other side of Dulles. I've decided to hold off on my next Leica lens and get a snow blower instead, much cheaper to boot . Cheers. -Norm Jono's post was from 2007. I think he's figured things out by now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
!Nomad64 Posted December 21, 2009 Share #30 Posted December 21, 2009 HI thereI'm teetering on the brink of buying one of these lenses, and I realise that I'll need to get a new mount from Zeiss to get the framelines, then send it to John Milich to get the coding. However, my question is this: If I buy the lens with the normal mount and hand code it with a sharpie, will it recognise it as a 24mm elmarit even though it doesn't bring up the correct framelines? The point being that if it DOES work hand coded, I can get the lens straightaway and then fiddle about with mounts etc. whilst using it hand coded. If not, then there isn't much point in getting the lens until I have a coded mount to put on it. any help gratefully received My point is that you don't really need the 6-bit coding and you do not even need to file the flange or whatever else surgery. As you install the lens you'll just want to turn it a bit past or before the lock clicks in, until you see the 24 framelines. Annoying, but simpler and cheaper than anything else. Just my 2c. Cheers, Bruno Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted December 21, 2009 Share #31 Posted December 21, 2009 Flanges, codes, mount changes aren't really necessary...unless you are a working pro and need the correct frame for critical work. I have the Zeiss ZM wideangles, including the 25. I use the viewfinder to focus (not necessary either...zone focusing will do) and take the shot...check the LCD monitor...take in too much, move in a couple of steps...don't cover enough, move back a couple of steps.The 25 is a very sharp lens with the typical Zeiss rendition of color and contrast...so are the 21, 35, and 50 Zeiss ZMs. Don't let the "cron, lux, milled mount" crowd sway you. Like all the M cameras, the M8 is really very simple to use and handle...and encourages you to exercise a little creativity without the aforementioned adaptations. If you really like cyan corners, you are right. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottocrat Posted December 22, 2009 Share #32 Posted December 22, 2009 I had the silver one and used it on the M8 with no coding and the original mount and was really happy with the results, even the 28mm framlines weren't a great problem. I then saw a used one at classic cameras that already had the milich adaptor and 6 bit coding so I exchanged for my standard one. they are no selling it for £699 and it is only a couple of months oldCarl Zeiss 25mm f2.8 Biogon ZM Silver boxed as new Haha, this is the one I bought yesterday. Guess I should thank you viramati! Bought it with a B&W UVIR filter - I think the filters are pretty crucial, I seem to get very inferior results on my M8.2 if I'm not using them, not just in terms of colour rendition but even in terms of resolution. Not sure how that works but that's what I'm seeing. As for coding, framelines etc... really not a big issue for me. The 25 Biogon field of view is what I can see through my viewfinder and a little bit more so why bother with framelines? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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