marknorton Posted August 18, 2006 Share #1 Posted August 18, 2006 Advertisement (gone after registration) After the talk of the M8 supporting the 24 natively, I was hunting around for the best price and Jacobs Digital were doing it for a bargain £1200 or so. I made the mistake of asking whether the lens is coded and they've come back and told me yes it is, but hiked the price of the lens by more than £300 in the process. Silly me, I should have just bought the thing. Crazy thing is, they are still advertising the 21mm f2.8 and the 35mm f1.4 for less than the 24mm though what were bargain prices for the 50mm f1.4 and Noctilux have also gone up. Looks like it's HK time again, then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest zwicko Posted August 18, 2006 Share #2 Posted August 18, 2006 Sent you a PM. Cheers, Zwicko Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest leica_mage Posted August 18, 2006 Share #3 Posted August 18, 2006 After the talk of the M8 supporting the 24 natively, I was hunting around for the best price and Jacobs Digital were doing it for a bargain £1200 or so. I made the mistake of asking whether the lens is coded and they've come back and told me yes it is, but hiked the price of the lens by more than £300 in the process. Silly me, I should have just bought the thing. Crazy thing is, they are still advertising the 21mm f2.8 and the 35mm f1.4 for less than the 24mm though what were bargain prices for the 50mm f1.4 and Noctilux have also gone up. Looks like it's HK time again, then. What it looks like is time for the consumer to boycott the speculators and profiteers by buying equipment from those with the best offers in general. It may have been a mistake to ask, but the reaction of the dealer is an even greater mistake and, to be honest, bad practice. You saw it £ 1200 and you should have been able to get it at £ 1200, no matter what you asked or said. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
marknorton Posted August 18, 2006 Author Share #4 Posted August 18, 2006 Zwicko has kindly pointed me at an ex-demo lens for £1150, just waiting to hear back from the Hong Kong boys, do the sums with shipping and VAT. Called Jacobs who claimed Leica have increased the price by £300 since they last bought stock. That would have been in 1996 then... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wattsy Posted August 18, 2006 Share #5 Posted August 18, 2006 but the reaction of the dealer is an even greater mistake and, to be honest, bad practice. You saw it £ 1200 and you should have been able to get it at £ 1200, no matter what you asked or said. Whether bad form or not, Jacobs certainly didn't have any obligation under UK law to sell at the lower price. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
earleygallery Posted August 18, 2006 Share #6 Posted August 18, 2006 Well, if the lens is coded Jacobs must have bought it in recently? Don't forget to check that the HK lens is coded (if you're planning to buy an M8) otherwise you'll have the added cost of sending it into Leica for upgrading. Shops aren't obliged to sell goods at prices displayed - the legal term is 'invitation to treat'. Annoying but that's the law (in the UK). Regards Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wattsy Posted August 18, 2006 Share #7 Posted August 18, 2006 Advertisement (gone after registration) Some of the new RRP prices for the coded lenses are incredible. 35 'lux is now £2138! Makes me glad that I already have all the M lenses I could ever want. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
marknorton Posted August 18, 2006 Author Share #8 Posted August 18, 2006 Yes, I'm not really complaining, just wondering whether if I had ordered straight-away, I might have got away with it. I agree the lens prices seem to be getting very high. To those who think a 16-18-21 Tri-Elmar will be €2500, I say, "Dream on!". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bill Posted August 18, 2006 Share #9 Posted August 18, 2006 Sadly, "e&oe" rules. Interested to know if you saw it advertised at that price, or if you 'phoned up and they told you. It doesn't make a blind bit of difference to the outcome, but I'm just curious. I've always found Jacobs to be one of the better dealers, and certainly one of the more pragmatic when it comes to secondhand pricing, and haggling thereon. Regards, Bill Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandokan Posted August 18, 2006 Share #10 Posted August 18, 2006 According to the Leica documentation, it costs €95 for the upgrade...! Leica Camera AG - M lenses with 6-bit coding (too big to upload here - sorry). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
albertwang Posted August 18, 2006 Share #11 Posted August 18, 2006 What is a Leica photo of one man kicking himself? AKA What is the sound of one hand clapping? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
marknorton Posted August 18, 2006 Author Share #12 Posted August 18, 2006 Bill, I emailed the question and magically the price on the web site went up overnight which is what they quoted back to me in their reply. They wouldn't budge. Ravi, yes, I've upgraded my existing lenses, €95 is good value for what they do. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest leica_mage Posted August 18, 2006 Share #13 Posted August 18, 2006 Yes, I'm not really complaining, just wondering whether if I had ordered straight-away, I might have got away with it. Excuse me, but what's this? You are "apologising" because some merchant thugs suddenly jacked up the price on you simply because you asked?... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
marknorton Posted August 18, 2006 Author Share #14 Posted August 18, 2006 Sadly, a merchant here doesn't have to sell at the price they advertise and they were obviously not interested in my business, current or future. Just as well as they're not going to get any. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisweeks Posted August 18, 2006 Share #15 Posted August 18, 2006 i find that so sad! that a merchant would do that! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robert_parker Posted August 19, 2006 Share #16 Posted August 19, 2006 That's very sad for you and acutely bad publicity for the dealer concerned and rightly so. The mechanics of 'invitation to treat, offer and acceptance' have become very messy these days, as has the concept of clear descriptions and clear fair and not misleading terms in advertising. During the time of the Sale of Goods and Provision of Services act in the 1970's it was a widely held custom that a dealer or shopkeeper had to sell at the price they invited but that seems to have gone by the board. I certainly wouldn't want to deal with a company that switched prices on me in the way that this dealer has dealt with you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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