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50mm Summilux pre-asph E46 vs 50mm 1.2 Noctilux remake or stick with 50mm Summicron V5

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Keith (M)
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For me the 50mm f1.2 re-issue is proving to be an easier / more pleasant lens to use than the f1 v4 I had previously whilst possessing similar quirks and character.  It has (not yet) displaced my othe

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They have a very different rendering at large apertures. If you are considering replacing your summicron I’d suggest the summilux. If you are looking at a complement then the noctilux maybe as it is m

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Nice thread here. Hi Mads, my answer is that last year, I  pulled the trigger on the Noctilux 50/1.2 remake. Owning a Lux 50 pre asph. and later the 50 asph. also, I was looking for an even

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22 minutes ago, mcpallesen said:

Quick update. Ordered the 50mm 1.2 Noctilux remake today. 😊 Can’t wait to start shooting this lens. 
 

Thanks for all the input and advice received.

Congrats! Your 28 + 35 + 50mm re-issues will undoubtedly make an amazing team!

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2 hours ago, mcpallesen said:

Quick update. Ordered the 50mm 1.2 Noctilux remake today. 😊 Can’t wait to start shooting this lens. 
 

Thanks for all the input and advice received.

Congratulations on your purchase.  I continue to be utterly delighted with the results from mine (on M10M & M11 - have yet to try with my M7).  Look forward to seeing your photos.

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1 hour ago, evikne said:

Congrats! Your 28 + 35 + 50mm re-issues will undoubtedly make an amazing team!

Thanks, Ernst. I totally agree - will be such a cool set. Really happy with this.

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3 minutes ago, Keith (M) said:

Congratulations on your purchase.  I continue to be utterly delighted with the results from mine (on M10M & M11 - have yet to try with my M7).  Look forward to seeing your photos.

Thanks, Keith. Can’t wait to start shooting with it. 😊

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On 12/22/2022 at 6:58 AM, mcpallesen said:

@leicaoptik and @Keith (M), do you find distortion to be an issue on this lens? Hope I don’t have to worry. 🙈

Firstly, congrats on your acquisition and your first upload :) 

As to distortion (with the caveat that I don't specifically carry out architectural photography), uploading files into LR Classic and ticking the Lens Corrections / Apply Profile Corrections box corrects any that are present.  

Enjoy exploring what the lens is capable of, whether it be at f1.2 or any other aperture - I am still very much in the foothills of that journey!

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@leicaoptik, @Keith (M), do you

also have to use two fingers to focus on you 50mm 1.2 nocti? My focus ring seems a bit too dampened/weighted to focus with just one finger.

I guess that is normal for this lens, when new at least, but just wanted to make sure everything is as it should be? 😊

Merry x-mas!

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The Nocti has a focus ring and not a focus tab. The Leica lenses with a focus ring are to handle with two fingers for adjusting the focus…

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I hope you enjoy the Noctilux 1.2. I had a chance to buy a new one (original) in 1969 when I saw it in a camera shop in Chicago (Altman's) for ~$678. But I was just out of college and it didn't fit the budget of this new engineer. So I got a Summicron and used it happily for 40 years. Now that the 1.2 is available new again it still doesn't fit the budget of this long-retired engineer. Some things never seem to change.

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3 hours ago, TomB_tx said:

I hope you enjoy the Noctilux 1.2. I had a chance to buy a new one (original) in 1969 when I saw it in a camera shop in Chicago (Altman's) for ~$678. But I was just out of college and it didn't fit the budget of this new engineer. So I got a Summicron and used it happily for 40 years. Now that the 1.2 is available new again it still doesn't fit the budget of this long-retired engineer. Some things never seem to change.

Well, for me it wasn’t an “easy” purchase on the wallet. Had to trade-in a lens, will sell 1-2 more to ease the pain and also got a great deal. Else this would never have been possible for me.

But a totally get it - as an engineer of background as well. 😊

I will enjoy it respectfully for all the hard work it took me to be able to afford it even at a great price.

Thanks and very merry x-mas,

Mads

 

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Just a quick follow-up question to fellow 50mm f/1.2 Noctilux re-issue owners: Does the aperture ring on your copies also have a slight hint of “play/wobble” in the aperture indents? I.e. when turning the aperture ring to change aperture, just before disengaging from the current selected f-stop/aperture click, I can wobble/wiggle the ring ever so slightly in the turning directions.

I guess, I shouldnt worry and it’s a bit like the aperture ring “play” of the 35mm Steel Rim re-issue (which I also have).

But would be interested in your experience.

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Not the same lens, but my 50mm Summilux ASPH Black Chrome behaved the same way. The materials and construction have much in common, so I guess we experience the same thing. When I tapped it with my finger, it produced a metallic sound that eventually drove me crazy. 😄

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Not the same lens, but my 50mm Summilux ASPH Black Chrome behaved the same way. The materials and construction have much in common, so I guess we experience the same thing. When I tapped it with my finger, it produced a metallic sound that eventually drove me crazy. 😄

Thanks Ernst. No sound or rattle at all. Just this slight play when “looking for it”. Guess I shouldnt worry.

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The aperture ring is not that stiff as on my other lenses. 
The resistance from 1.2 to 1.4 is lower compared to the other clicks.

That is also the case in my new summilux 35 (FLE2) here the step from 1.4 to 1.8

Next time I am in Wetzlar I will ask Leica if that can be adjusted to a stiffer drive.

The most stiff aperture ring I have in the silver chrome lenses. 
The smoothest has my blackpaint summilux 50mm which is butterly with just the right stop resistance :)

 

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