Quintilianus Posted October 1, 2007 Share #1 Posted October 1, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) New, very proud and happy user of M8, CV 21, Cron Asph 28 and 50. I would like to hear from more experienced users what they would recommend as a RAW/DNG convertor. Of course, this is quite personal and it also depends on the kind of photographer one is, but if anyone could share his/her thoughts on the available possibilities, I'd be very happy. Would I need C1 if I have PS CS3? Or are they totally different things to compare...? Pardon my ignorance, hope you can clarify everything for me. I tend to want to convert to B&W 90 % of my photos. Many thanks! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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bradreiman Posted October 1, 2007 Share #2 Posted October 1, 2007 Hi-welcome to the fray. I really liked lightroom but when the free trial ran out i went back to aperture which i really like. you are right it is highly personal which this thread will show shortly. i guess i'm just used to the aperture interface. thinking about going back to c1 now that its progressed a bit. whatever happens enjoy the m8 and those nice little lenses. i predict you'll be very pleased....b Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AGeoJO Posted October 1, 2007 Share #3 Posted October 1, 2007 I used to use C1 Pro exclusively for converting DNG/RAW files from both the M8 and my DSLR camera. Lately, I played with Lightroom and I am pleased with it. I don't work for nor have any relation with Adobe but I am liking LR more and more. Straightforward workflow and you save tons of storage space and of course, the output is great, which is the main important issue. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Hart Posted October 1, 2007 Share #4 Posted October 1, 2007 Lightroom. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guy_mancuso Posted October 1, 2007 Share #5 Posted October 1, 2007 Lightromm and C1 . BTW CS3 raw converter is the same processing engine as Lightroom. Lightroom just gives you a slick interface and a mangement system plus a few other features. Try a demo first but for processing there identical make sure you have LR in version 1.2 and the latest Adode raw converter which i believe is 4.2 , update CS3 and it should be there . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
etrigan63 Posted October 1, 2007 Share #6 Posted October 1, 2007 Bibble Pro + Andy Pro for B&W conversions. Does an amazing job. C1 comes with the M8 though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hdrmd Posted October 2, 2007 Share #7 Posted October 2, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) Photo Mechanic and CS3 with the latest plug-in for Adobe Camera Raw. In my opinion, much easier and intuitive than Capture one. DR Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dspeltz Posted October 2, 2007 Share #8 Posted October 2, 2007 I switched to LR from C1. Workflow is good and quality good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordfanjpn Posted October 2, 2007 Share #9 Posted October 2, 2007 I use Lightroom quite a lot because it's so easy to work with. But for the best quality conversion I use either C1 or Silkypix. Bill Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joern Posted October 2, 2007 Share #10 Posted October 2, 2007 If you would like to see an overview over different raw converters with a lot of technical background, especially about the M8 colours, you may like to have a look at: KammaGamma » Articles » Leica M8 Colors For my taste it is C1(pro). I am using it since 2000 with different cameras / raw files and get the wanted results most of the time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gesper Posted October 2, 2007 Share #11 Posted October 2, 2007 I like the look of C1, but it is generally too cumbersome. I use ACR 4.2 most of the time now, in either Bridge or CS3. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
M6J Posted October 2, 2007 Share #12 Posted October 2, 2007 Lightroom for me Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
innerimager Posted October 2, 2007 Share #13 Posted October 2, 2007 Raw Developer mostly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hofrench Posted October 2, 2007 Share #14 Posted October 2, 2007 I am a very happy Lightroom user who has never managed to figure out how to use C1 to any degree of sophistication. One frequently sees assertions that C1 somehow renders the superior image, particularly for B+W. Is there any basis for this assertion? If so, I'd like to see it demonstrated. Lightroom seems light years ahead at least in terms of its feature set. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveSee Posted October 2, 2007 Share #15 Posted October 2, 2007 I use Dave Coffin's `dcraw`, NetPBM, and ImageMagick tools rolled into my souping routine. I call on LCMS and Jos. Holmes' and JFI profiles. Lightzone is interesting too, for more interactive work... Lightroom is apt for workflow, but you must run MacOSX or Win+pay a bit more upfront: no free lunch--but you work through that anyway--so keep your data in the original DNG and play around a bit. I've enjoyed the Lightroom experience, but if you've got P/CS you might try ACR. As others have posted, "it depends" on your working method/"flow"... Lightroom opts to manage your data, while ACR opts to alter your DNG files, so I've come to understand. Most photogs I work with use C1 products, and the Pro version is sweet... however, these folks are shooting tethered and using Adobe's Bridge as well, so it's apples and oranges(another reason why I like Sean's tests... the produce!)... with C1, like Lightroom, there are workflow concerns(now, where is that file?). I opt to shoot and ask questions later, so I wrote a routine with FOSS tools to simply "develop" the "prints". In this routine is a TIFF "dump" for those wanting more post-processing options. And the customer doesn't need to know I run Linux rgds, Dave Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hookeye Posted October 2, 2007 Share #16 Posted October 2, 2007 I am afraid I just use the RAW converter which comes with Photoshop Elements. Don't understand why nobody else use it. I have the Capture One that came with the M8, but I never even tried it. Perhaps someone can tell me what I am missing? Please keep in mind that "batch processing" a lot of images is not my style. I carefully select which ones to convert and just dump the rest right away. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanhulsenbeek Posted October 2, 2007 Share #17 Posted October 2, 2007 Lightroom. Also because of its archiving facilities. And I hate the long wait for thumbnails in C1. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stunsworth Posted October 2, 2007 Share #18 Posted October 2, 2007 Hans, as I remember the RAW converter that comes with elements is the same as the one used in the full version of Photoshop but some of the more advanced functions are disabled. C1 just doesn't fit into the way I work so I'll be sticking to ACR in CS3. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
guy Posted October 2, 2007 Share #19 Posted October 2, 2007 Lightroom. If you're tempted by ACR + PS, do factor in the much-increased cost of getting Photoshop over Lightroom: LR costs about the same as a PS upgrade cycle. I keep saying this because it doesn't seem self-evident to me that, just because we own Leicas, we have unlimited funds! I also like having almost all post-processing, archiving, file ordering, backup strategy etc under one virtual roof, and Lightroom allows that. It's a young product and we can expect the feature set to increase with time, but as it stands it's stable and covers 99% of the bases. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted October 2, 2007 Share #20 Posted October 2, 2007 C1 and Photoshop. Somehow I cannot get my mind to accept the way LR works. I'm in the process of trying Bibble out. LFI had a comparison some time ago. It seems that C1 has better fine detail and colors, but the difference is not large. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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