ptomsu Posted September 18, 2007 Share #1 Posted September 18, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) Is Leica working on a new DSLR system? Will it be compatible with the old R System or will it be something totally new (which would not be too bad in my opinion) ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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MJLogan Posted September 18, 2007 Share #2 Posted September 18, 2007 See this long (and currently active) discussion on the future of the R System: http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-forum/digital-forum/31414-r10-brand-new-digital-r-coming.html Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptomsu Posted September 18, 2007 Author Share #3 Posted September 18, 2007 See this long (and currently active) discussion on the future of the R System: http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-forum/digital-forum/31414-r10-brand-new-digital-r-coming.html Yeah, but this is more speculation about how other vendors couldbuild (could have built) a camera like the next generation Leica DSLR. Any more insight information around? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ho_co Posted September 18, 2007 Share #4 Posted September 18, 2007 Peter, you've got as much info as the rest of us. Various people have apparently been informed that a new R model is coming for next photokina. There have been several public comments from Leica that indicate that production of analog bodies is not currently planned. At that point we assume that a new line of digital cameras without AF would be supreme ignorance on Leica's part, and the speculation begins. Most people agree with you that the camera would have to be backward compatible to the current lens line, because that is what Leica has always done and what we expect-. Only a year of speculation left! --HC Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dfarkas Posted September 19, 2007 Share #5 Posted September 19, 2007 Only a year of speculation left! And I remember the year of speculation leading up to the DMR. I, for one, can't wait to see what materializes. Anyone booking travel to Photokina yet? David Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guy_mancuso Posted September 19, 2007 Share #6 Posted September 19, 2007 I'm going this time David:D Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrc Posted September 19, 2007 Share #7 Posted September 19, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) I'm thinking about going; more to look around Germany than for cameras, bnut if I'm there anyway... JC Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmb_ Posted September 19, 2007 Share #8 Posted September 19, 2007 I, for one, can't wait to see what materializes. Yes, I am really looking forward to see what they develop. The DMR is fantastic. The M8 is a winner. Whatever niche they try to fill with the R10 the camera has to be the best in that class otherwise it will not live up to Leica's expectations AND the customer's expectations. I expect Leica will deliver just that. Several months ago, I told a dealer to put my name on the list for an R10 (I hope he hasn't forgotten). Now I just need to refrain from buying an M8 in the interim as I wait patiently to see what materializes, as David so aptly put it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
etrigan63 Posted September 19, 2007 Share #9 Posted September 19, 2007 Isn't Photokina next year? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmb_ Posted September 19, 2007 Share #10 Posted September 19, 2007 Yes, next year: 9/23 - 9/28, 2008 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ho_co Posted September 19, 2007 Share #11 Posted September 19, 2007 For info see photokina cologne - imaging world. On that page, also note that the fair's name is spelled in all lower-case, even when sentence-initial: photokina, not Photokina. (Just to prove you're an insider.) --HC Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptomsu Posted September 19, 2007 Author Share #12 Posted September 19, 2007 Hm ..... so we only have speculations and rumors. What if this camera is an all new AF model which does NOT take old R lenses? What if this camera is aied for the professional high resolution tasks (studio, landscape, etc.) which require rela sharp and superior image quality - kind of something in the middle beteen Hasselbald and Canon 1DSMKII (hope i got this name right - I mean their 22MP thing)? What if they use a slightly larger sensor than FF - something which a product manager from Leica mentioned during an interview at last photokina? I would rteally love to see such a thig materialize. BUT then it means that all R glass is at least for me of no useage, as is my R9 and as is my DMR - which means sell asap, as otherwise prices will further decrease. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ho_co Posted September 19, 2007 Share #13 Posted September 19, 2007 All reasonable questions, of course--but again, based on assumptions. My belief (with no more knowledge than you have), as I said above, is that the R system will be usable on the new camera. When Leica brought out the M system, they made adapters to use the screw-mount lenses on the new camera. Each time Leica advanced the R system's capabilities, they made it possible to have the older lenses upgraded to the new standard. Heavens, look at Nikon! They've changed their lenses numerous times, but almost all the lenses they've made since their first reflex are usable on the current line-up. IMHO Leica isn't about to let Nikon have bragging rights on system longevity. --HC Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptomsu Posted September 19, 2007 Author Share #14 Posted September 19, 2007 All reasonable questions, of course--but again, based on assumptions. My belief (with no more knowledge than you have), as I said above, is that the R system will be usable on the new camera. When Leica brought out the M system, they made adapters to use the screw-mount lenses on the new camera. Each time Leica advanced the R system's capabilities, they made it possible to have the older lenses upgraded to the new standard. Heavens, look at Nikon! They've changed their lenses numerous times, but almost all the lenses they've made since their first reflex are usable on the current line-up. IMHO Leica isn't about to let Nikon have bragging rights on system longevity. --HC IMHO a new Leica DSLR, incorporating a new superframe sensor, will need a new mount and new lenses. Yes, you always can build adapters for using some other glass, as R glass in this case, but does it really make any sense? It is then only to be able to say we have made the new system compatible to the old R line. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ho_co Posted September 19, 2007 Share #15 Posted September 19, 2007 I can't argue against the future. So far, Leica has done a pretty good job of surprising us by exceeding our expectations. I think they'll do the same with the R10. You make a very good point, though, that hadn't occurred to me: I had read the interview that implied that the future might hold a sensor larger than 24 x 36. I had tried to see how that might be possible, using current lenses. But then I see that the Nikon D3 recognizes when it has a DX lens attached and automatically reduces its image frame to match. And when you mention adapters for the current R lenses, I can see Leica able to cut itself free of the Barnack format and at the same time honor all its existing lenses. Will they do it? Who knows? But after your comment, I can see the pieces fall into place. Is that more than just saying that they've done it? I think so. But my imagined camera may not be the same as yours, and neither is likely the same as what Leica has up its sleeve. One thing is certain: There will be more rumors before we see the R10, and most of them will be wrong as well. --HC Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stunsworth Posted September 19, 2007 Share #16 Posted September 19, 2007 What if this camera is an all new AF model which does NOT take old R lenses? Leica, or just the R line, is history. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted September 19, 2007 Share #17 Posted September 19, 2007 Leica, or just the R line, is history. Agree. Full compatibility of current R lenses, plus early ones as far as possible, is mandatory IMHO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stnami Posted September 19, 2007 Share #18 Posted September 19, 2007 Leica, or just the R line, is history ,,,,,,,,,,,,,why this need to strangle Leica with history Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andybarton Posted September 19, 2007 Share #19 Posted September 19, 2007 Why? Because those of us with a serious investment in R glass will just sell for whatever price we can get (not much at that time, and under those circumstances) and go elsewhere. Anyway - who says this is a strangle? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guy_mancuso Posted September 19, 2007 Share #20 Posted September 19, 2007 Besides the serious investment in R glass there are some lenses in that line that i honestly don't think you could even possibly improve on. There APO Teylt line is honestly the best long glasss in use today big and heavy yes but killer quality. Than there is the 19mm, 28mm, 50 lux, 90 apo, 28-90 just to name a few that i personally have tested and there simply is nothing better in there class. There are some great lenses in this line. The one killer and i really mean this and Doug Herr loves this lens also and he shoots wildlife but the 280 mm F4 is a lens that is completely unmatched in my book. i never seen a long lens in this focal length this good. Whatever Leica comes out with HAS to be backwards compatable or there will be a huge ship sinking here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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