sharookh Posted September 18, 2007 Share #1 Posted September 18, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) Folks - I am in the market for a wide angle and can't seem to trace th 28/2.8 anywhere. Therefore I thought I should go for the 24/2.8 or further out to 21. Would I need an additional viewfinder for the 24 / 21 considering that the M8 has a 1.3 multiplier? What framelines should I expect to see with these two lenses (28 framelines with the 21 and 35 framelines with the 24)? Earliest comments would be most appreciated as I may have someone pick it up (either Leica or Zeiss) in Singapore for me tomorrow - depending on the response I get. Thanks Regards Sharookh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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stunsworth Posted September 18, 2007 Share #2 Posted September 18, 2007 Hi Sharookh, the M8 has framelines for the 24mm in the camera - these show the cropped field of view. If you want to use a 21mm you'll need to use an external viewfinder. I use a Voigtlander 28mm which is the angle of view for a 21mm on the M8. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shootist Posted September 18, 2007 Share #3 Posted September 18, 2007 I have the 24mm 2.8 Elmarit and the M8 includes frame line for that lens. I also have the CV 21 color skopar M mount f/4 lens and I find if I peek around the normal FOV of the viewfinder It's pretty close to what the 21mm captures. I don't see a nedd for external VF for the 21mm Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wparsonsgisnet Posted September 18, 2007 Share #4 Posted September 18, 2007 Sharookh, First the 24 is a magnificent lens. In the 9 months I have been using it, it has become my favorite lens (32mm effective length). Second, yes the frame is there on the M8, but I cannot see the entire frame in the viewer at one time, and I don't wear glasses. However, this is not a problem in practice; it's just that you should know that the frame lines are partially obscured when focusing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnbuckley Posted September 18, 2007 Share #5 Posted September 18, 2007 Sharookh - I second Bill. It is a wonderful lens. The picture below may not do it justice, reduced as it is for posting, but as a print, the detail is extraordinary. JB Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodmanS Posted September 18, 2007 Share #6 Posted September 18, 2007 I have been using a 21 on the m8 for a few months now and have yet to use my viewfinder for it. It is about the size of the m8's viewfinder, so unless you need brightlines for precision framing it seems not needed. Mine is pre-asp but ~28 is a great angle. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnalex141r Posted September 18, 2007 Share #7 Posted September 18, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) I *just* got back from a cruise through Alaska, and took my new to me M8 and my one and only lens - a Voigtlander 25mm. From what I have seen of my pics, I really like it. The 25mm lens is M mount, and it brings up the 25mm-35mm frame lines. I did a test before I went, and the frame lines seem pretty accurate. The only "problem" that I had found was that one has to get really close to the viewfinder to see the whole of the view - but maybe I have longer eyelashes than some. I don't know what it would be like if you had to wear glasses. I sometimes I tended to use the 35mm frame lines by mistake, but that is just conditioning on my part. (my Fujica mf rangefinder cameras were what I was using before and I was not used to having to get the camera soooo close to my eyes) Once in a while I wished that I had a 35mm or so lens; but I think that the 25mm Voigtlander worked very well. I expect to get the 35, and a Voigtlander 15 sometime fairly soon, once the credit card is paid off.... JohnS. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
guy Posted September 19, 2007 Share #8 Posted September 19, 2007 Agree with others that, for the 21mm, you don't really need an external viewfinder. You just assume that everything you can see in the M8's finder will be in the shot, plus a slight margin of error above and beyond that, which you can always crop out. So if the money and / or faff of having an external finder are an issue, you can discount them. And the lens is very good indeed! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisC Posted September 19, 2007 Share #9 Posted September 19, 2007 Sharookh - As others have stated, the 24 framelines can get a little bit lost but it is workable. However, for me, a far greater irritant is the omnipresent twinned 35 mm frameline which is always a wretched distraction when photographing with the 24 mm. Others have noted before an experience with making mental conversions from wide angles in the film format to an M8 equivalent; that M8 wide angles can seem wider than otherwise expected. So the 24 mm on the M8 equates to a moderate 32 mm lens for 35 mm film [and therefore a moderate wide angle lens], but when using it on the M8 I too am finding it 'feels' a little wider than my expectations. Spooky Robert Wright, I believe, first noted this on the forum and it shouldn't make sense - yet some of us have had the same daft experience. Feel free to disregard this as nonsense. ................ Chris Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luigi bertolotti Posted September 19, 2007 Share #10 Posted September 19, 2007 Sharook... what OTHER lens(es) do you have ? I think your choice has to be based on this topic, too: clearly, if you already own a 35... better to go UNDER 28... I haven't 24, and like a lot my 21... and agree that many times you don't need a dedicated VF... "full M8 window plus a margin" is a good rule... expecially if you don't wear glasses. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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