Sandokan Posted August 17, 2006 Share #21 Posted August 17, 2006 Advertisement (gone after registration) ... M7. I sold it ten days ago on eBay for US$1800. In EXC+ condition ... -g I think I may have bought it from you (without the neck strap?). I wish I had seen your 90mm for sale earlier. Incidentally, because it said "used" on the packing slip, I paid no customs duty this time, but that makes up for the CHF65 I had to pay on a $200 Steiff Teddy bear Now I am waiting for my 35mm apo to arrive from NY (hopefully a colleague will bring it next month) and will get a 75mm from HK (thanks Mark and Brent the useful comments from people who have dealt with those suppliers). Mark, you are right about the shipping costs adding up, but it comes out still a few hundred pounds cheaper than Classic Camera or even Jacobs Digital and if you buy a few items, better still. I just wonder if they will fall for the "used" trick again? Albert - I think it is cheaper than prices I saw in NY by about $500? If not, let me know your suppliers as I am far more often in USA than out East (luckily I now have people who are younger and willing to travel for me in my team ) James - I would consider buying a used quality film camera because I expect it to give as good a result as a new one, but for used electronic equipment I would always buy new because last years model really is obsolete in terms of technological content (or at least the marketing folk from Japan have totally sold us on that idea!)... Dana - if the IPod saga is anything to go by and their lack of customer focus, I would not buy a camera from Apple. They make a much better computer with great software and OS than their surviving competitors but that is nothing to brag about given the opposition. I still wish Steve Jobs had made a success with his Next; now that was a computer way ahead of its time! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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marknorton Posted August 17, 2006 Share #22 Posted August 17, 2006 I think secondhand lens prices will firm with renewed interest in the M, especially wide-angles. People buying an M8 might decide they need a 28 or a 35. If the reported support for the 24 through the viewfinder is true, that will also be in demand. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nikau Posted August 18, 2006 Share #23 Posted August 18, 2006 In answer to Mark, the .68 viewfinder of the M8 will have a 24mm frame paired with 35mm. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
adan Posted August 18, 2006 Share #24 Posted August 18, 2006 In answer to Mark, the .68 viewfinder of the M8 will have a 24mm frame paired with 35mm. Source for this info? (not that I disbelieve - just being the skeptical journalist) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
marknorton Posted August 18, 2006 Share #25 Posted August 18, 2006 There was an article in a French photo magazine which reported the 24mm lens would be supported - it currently activates the 35mm frame set so that with them dropping the 135mm, the frame pairs would become 28/90, 24/35, 50/75. If the new "standard" focal lengths below 21 are 15-16 and 18 (provided by the rumoured new Tri-Elmar or one or more primes), the existing aux finder could just be remarked with these new focal lengths because the 1.33 crop factor takes the field of view of those focal lengths to 21/24/28. I have not seen the 0.68 figure before. LCT would be able to tell us what the minimum magnification would be to be able to focus the 75/1.4 and 90/2 with the magnifier as a focussing aid if needed. It sort of makes sense and it would be attractive to Leica if money was tight and they did not want to develop a new finder: - Change the masks (which they had to do anyway) - Set a single magnification which helps manufacturing and inventory - Change the engraving or printing on the aux finder barrel Compared to the work involved in a new electronic frame line finder, or my hare-brained scheme for variable magnification, it looks like a pretty simple "to-do" list to me. Viewfinder "problem" solved. The 24 might have made it on to my shopping list. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
adan Posted August 18, 2006 Share #26 Posted August 18, 2006 A .68x finder + 1.25x magnifier = .85x, so that should be OK... ..although I wonder about .68x. First it means a whole additional set of viewfinder optics beside the existing .58/.72/.85 designs to make and stock. Second - the crop factor means the frameline boxes were already going to be smaller, and .68x makes them smaller yet (about the size the frames would be if Leica made a 0.51x finder for the film cameras). Even if Leica stuck with the .72x finder, a frame for the 24mm (cropped to "32mm") would be easier to see (smaller, less close to the edge, require less peripheral vision) than the current 28mm frames. Kinda sounds like a writer for the magazine divided .85x by the magnifier multiple and "guessed" at .68x. It's a data point - but I wouldn't run out to get a 24 just yet, myself. Only 30 days til we get the real word. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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