gmaurizio Posted September 14, 2007 Share #1 Posted September 14, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) To keep the ball rolling... At our studio we replaced a broken Hasselblad Imacon V96C with a Leica M8, since we had a bunch of lenses to go with our M3 and MPs. We regret none, zilch, nada, zero... Even if sometimes we could use the 16MP, image quality is as good (or better), and handheld is, priceless... Then I saw my faithful Mamiya 7II with the superb 43mm, 80mm and 150mm lenses and thought... Mmmm... what about a 6x7 sensor in this oversized (but more silent) Japanese Leica? Even with a 1.5 crop, it would make a hell of a camera.... Or not? Opinions please Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted September 14, 2007 Posted September 14, 2007 Hi gmaurizio, Take a look here If the M8 is SO good, then what will a digital Mamiya 7II be?. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
afineman Posted September 14, 2007 Share #2 Posted September 14, 2007 wish it were so. but i won't hold my breath. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimcollum Posted September 14, 2007 Share #3 Posted September 14, 2007 personally, i'd love a digital XPAN Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmaurizio Posted September 14, 2007 Author Share #4 Posted September 14, 2007 personally, i'd love a digital XPAN Now that is a thought... and it should be feasible, although expensive... Panorama lovers would die for that camera. At the same time, if I am not mistaken, the 6x7 negative would be larger than the xpan (at least in height), because I remember using the 135 film adapter on the Mam7II and getting slides as large as those from the Xpan. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmk60 Posted September 15, 2007 Share #5 Posted September 15, 2007 I am holding onto my Mamiya 7II and its lenes in hope that the dream comes true.. Maybe Mamiya engineers have been reading the threads here in order to foresee challenges with the 7II. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmaurizio Posted September 15, 2007 Author Share #6 Posted September 15, 2007 I am holding onto my Mamiya 7II and its lenes in hope that the dream comes true.. Maybe Mamiya engineers have been reading the threads here in order to foresee challenges with the 7II. You have spoken wisely, Kobayashi-san. May your wishes be granted Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rskmd83@hamptons.com Posted September 15, 2007 Share #7 Posted September 15, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) I have always dreamed of a mamiya 7 with large digital read-out on the back and ttl metering. Stick with the film. cant beat 6x7. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmaurizio Posted September 15, 2007 Author Share #8 Posted September 15, 2007 I have always dreamed of a mamiya 7 with large digital read-out on the back and ttl metering. Stick with the film. cant beat 6x7. I do agree, while it is not a fight between film or digital, is the best application for each. Digital is a dream for photojournalism, quality, speed, COST, select ISO on the flight, shoot as much as you want, and so on... While film still has, in some cases, a more personal and intimate look. As a matter of fact, shooting wedding with part film (M7II, that scales perfectly to 8x10) and part digital enables us to charge a price differential unheard of. Upscale weddings DO actually look for film! I guess we have to learn to live with both, forget the petty differences and live happier. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtwo Posted September 15, 2007 Share #9 Posted September 15, 2007 "then what will a digital Mamiya be?".......Nonexistant. The technology is not there yet. It almost is not here for the M8, good grief, look at the little foibles of this camera. I suspect the compromises which would have to be made and the resultant problems would make it a camera for a very small group of Photogs (did I say very small?). Secondly, does Mamiya have sufficient resources to make digital what never was a huge seller in the days of film. It is marginal with Leica. Fun to speculate though isn't it? I suspect you already have the digital Mamiya 7 only it is called Leica M8. John Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmaurizio Posted September 15, 2007 Author Share #10 Posted September 15, 2007 "then what will a digital Mamiya be?".......Nonexistant. The technology is not there yet. It almost is not here for the M8, good grief, look at the little foibles of this camera. I suspect the compromises which would have to be made and the resultant problems would make it a camera for a very small group of Photogs (did I say very small?). Secondly, does Mamiya have sufficient resources to make digital what never was a huge seller in the days of film. It is marginal with Leica. Fun to speculate though isn't it? I suspect you already have the digital Mamiya 7 only it is called Leica M8. John While you are indeed making very sound comments, we can always dream. In any case, the more pressing problem Leica had to face was the extremely shallow distance from lens to sensor, the dreaded 27.xmm. That problem does not happen with the Mamiya, altough up to today, there are no full-frame mid size sensors, and we keep no high hopes that one will become commercially available anytime soon. I wonder if a solution in the style of the Leica R DMR could be, at least theoretically, possible? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
canlogic Posted September 15, 2007 Share #11 Posted September 15, 2007 I imagine it would be.......expensive. but nice. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
carstenw Posted September 15, 2007 Share #12 Posted September 15, 2007 I guess a digital Mamiya 7II would be something like the ZD and hence would cost just south of €10,000. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdi Posted September 15, 2007 Share #13 Posted September 15, 2007 ... I suspect you already have the digital Mamiya 7 only it is called Leica M8. John Its not really close... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irakly Shanidze Posted September 15, 2007 Share #14 Posted September 15, 2007 i wouldn't light my candles for a 60x70mm any time soon. however, i do not see why it could not be done with a square 39x39 sensor. although, it this case, i would go for a body with x-pan lenses. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
carstenw Posted September 16, 2007 Share #15 Posted September 16, 2007 The 36x48mm size is by far the most common MF choice, and I guess a slightly downscaled 7II could be built around such a chip. However, given the ZD's failure to gain traction I cannot imagine that they are even considering this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
vic vic Posted September 16, 2007 Share #16 Posted September 16, 2007 well i dont know about x-pan lenses usability on future digis........ but there are enough solutions (especially wide angle fotography)......... the best is of course...... alpa swa12 or t with leaf digi back attached (at least in my opinion but u can fit any other digi back to it)...... and in front u can put one of schneider or rodenstock lenses for digi - the cut into pieces almost any other optics on earth...... ) there is no rangefinder though but u can guess the distance or u can even add extrernal distance matter rff if u really non-confident..... ALPA of Switzerland - Manufacturer of fine cameras - About ALPA no need to dream about mamiya...... if u r serious and u want such a high quality from digital then there are already solutions for it........ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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