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Do you think that this lenshood at its lowest level is suited for a 35mm Summaron?

 

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On some versions of the FIKUS, the lowest line (unlabelled on yours) is marked for the 3.5 cm Elmar:

https://opinionateddesigner.com/2015/09/03/miniature-masterpiece-leica-fikus-universal-lens-hood/

I don't think they otherwise changed the design, so yours should work with that lens but not necessarily with other 35mm lenses. In previous discussions, Summaron users have reported that this hood vignettes. There is of course a dedicated hood for the Summaron, 'FOOKH' (a similar word is sometimes muttered by prospective purchasers when they see the price it usually sells for).

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7 hours ago, willeica said:

The IROOA is the best hood for the 1950s M and LTM f2.8 and f3.5 mount Summarons

https://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-wiki.en/index.php/IROOA

William 

That's an important point - there are both early A36 and later E39 versions of the Summaron. The FOOKH is A36, for the earlier lenses (which I'd assumed Mucleica has, since the FIKUS above is also A36). The IROOA is for the E39 versions. Unfortunately the IROOA isn't cheap either. The FIKUS is that rare thing, a (usually) reasonably priced classic Leica accessory. A shame it doesn't seem to be suitable for the A36 Summarons.

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1 hour ago, Anbaric said:

That's an important point - there are both early A36 and later E39 versions of the Summaron. The FOOKH is A36, for the earlier lenses (which I'd assumed Mucleica has, since the FIKUS above is also A36). The IROOA is for the E39 versions. Unfortunately the IROOA isn't cheap either. The FIKUS is that rare thing, a (usually) reasonably priced classic Leica accessory. A shame it doesn't seem to be suitable for the A36 Summarons.

It wasn't clear which 35mm Summaron was being referenced. I have the earlier version as well as several of the later models. I associate the FOOKH, which I also have in both chrome and black versions, more with the 3.5cm Elmar, but it should work on the earlier Summaron. If my memory does not do me a disservice, I believe that I have two different versions of the IROOA, one with a wide collar and another with a narrow collar and I seem to remember that one works better with the Summaron than the other, but I cannot recall which one. The IROOA works fine with a Canon35mm LTM lens which I have. As is obvious from my comments, I need to do a bit of a stock take on my lens hoods.

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Just try it out and see. The result may be different at f3.5 and f16.

These are the ones I use. There is more choice in the E39 size.

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30 minutes ago, Pyrogallol said:

Just try it out and see. The result may be different at f3.5 and f16.

These are the ones I use. There is more choice in the E39 size.

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Thanks for the photo. I have all of those plus an early black FOOKH.

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1 hour ago, willeica said:

Thanks for the photo. I have all of those plus an early black FOOKH.

William 

Oddly, the Wiki page on the FOOKH has an 'Elmar' hood that looks longer than the others (even if the scales of the photos are a bit different). Is it actually a FLQOO, or did Leica use the FOOKH code for hoods of different lengths?

https://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-wiki.en/index.php/FOOKH

https://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-wiki.en/index.php/FLQOO

A longer Elmar-specific hood fits with the FIKUS being usable with the Elmar, but not the Summaron. The 'Summaron-Elmar' FOOKH hoods were obviously usable with both lenses, but were they less effective with the Elmar than the longer hoods?

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7 hours ago, Anbaric said:

Oddly, the Wiki page on the FOOKH has an 'Elmar' hood that looks longer than the others (even if the scales of the photos are a bit different). Is it actually a FLQOO, or did Leica use the FOOKH code for hoods of different lengths?

https://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-wiki.en/index.php/FOOKH

https://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-wiki.en/index.php/FLQOO

A longer Elmar-specific hood fits with the FIKUS being usable with the Elmar, but not the Summaron. The 'Summaron-Elmar' FOOKH hoods were obviously usable with both lenses, but were they less effective with the Elmar than the longer hoods?

I need to check. I have a chrome FOOKH which actually came with a Summar and I have an earlier black hood for a 35mm Elmar, which could indeed be a FLQOO. I really need to do that stocktake!

Below are some photos of various hoods which I have in my collection. The photo immediately below shows the black hood with 'brassing' for the 3.5 cm in the centre. I believe that it is a FLQOO rather than a FOOKH, as I said earlier. There is a chrome FOOKH at front right.

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The next photo shows a group of FISONS with the rare one with a square front on the left.

The last three show various other hoods with the lenses for which they were intended. The second photo shows the IROOA with the 3.5 cm Summaron with goggles

The hoods for the 2.8cm f5.6 Summaron, example seen on the left above, were selling for huge prices, particularly if they had boxes, at the Leitz Auction in Wetzlar recently. A dealer, who was there, told me that he could not sell them himself for lower prices at the Bievres camera fair a week earlier.

Thanks for the earlier points which you have made about hoods. Instead of doing a stocktake of my hoods it was easier for me just to pull out old photos of my own hoods. I'm happy to answer any queries. I have picked these up in all sorts of ways, with lenses, on their own or in job lots. 

William

 

 

 

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And just one more. I believe that is the FLQOO at the right front in this photo.

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Sorry for having this all mixed, but this is the way that I have photographed the items in my collection over the years, usually for various articles or Zoom talks.

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At one time I had a 35 3.5 Summaron and a Chiyoko Super Rokkor 45 2.8. The FOOKH hood would fit both of them but with the Rokkor I could use the little knob for mounting the hood to adjust the aperture ring. When it was on the M6 TTL, once the shutter speed was set, it was a simple matter of turning the hood until the correct exposure diode lit up.

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1 hour ago, madNbad said:

At one time I had a 35 3.5 Summaron and a Chiyoko Super Rokkor 45 2.8. The FOOKH hood would fit both of them but with the Rokkor I could use the little knob for mounting the hood to adjust the aperture ring. When it was on the M6 TTL, once the shutter speed was set, it was a simple matter of turning the hood until the correct exposure diode lit up.

Thanks, I hadn’t thought of that.

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Given the rarity (and price) of many original hoods these days, when out photographing I tend to leave mine at home and make do with a combination of adapters and modern (and cheaper) hoods, which I wouldn't mind bashing or losing so much.

Alan

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4 hours ago, nf3996 said:

Given the rarity (and price) of many original hoods these days, when out photographing I tend to leave mine at home and make do with a combination of adapters and modern (and cheaper) hoods, which I wouldn't mind bashing or losing so much.

Alan

Even the classic A36 lens to E39 filter adapter (SOOGZ) has now become very expensive. Someone should really copy that one, because it gives you access to a wide range of filters and hoods. But I see that some of the ebay accessory sellers from China are now offering screw clamp A36 hoods.

 

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