wilfredo Posted May 24, 2022 Share #1 Posted May 24, 2022 Advertisement (gone after registration) I put my Leica Monochrom Type I up for sale, and someone requested to know if the sensor was replaced with a CCid 52 or 53, and gave me a formula to use on the camera to figure this out. I tried it and it didn't work. What's worse, it seems to have affected the software in the camera. When I turn the camera off, it won't turn back on unless I remove the battery and reinsert it. Is there a solution, or will I have to send it on an expensive trip to Leica for repair? I reset the camera setting but still, the issue persists. In all my years with this camera, this has never happened before. I advise people not to mess with anything related to software on their camera unless they are sure of what they are doing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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wilfredo Posted May 24, 2022 Author Share #2 Posted May 24, 2022 I also got this message which I've never seen before. I waited a few minutes but the problem persisted. After turning the camera off, it would not turn back on unless I removed the battery. I'm wondering if I should reload the latest firmware? Is there a link? I couldn't find it in the Leica website. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/332768-m-monochrom-wont-turn-on-without-removing-and-reinserting-the-battery/?do=findComment&comment=4440982'>More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted May 24, 2022 Share #3 Posted May 24, 2022 https://www.reddotforum.com/content/2014/11/new-firmware-released-for-leica-m8-m9-m9-p-m-e-m-monochrom-m-typ-240-and-m-p-typ-240/ You might try resetting camera if you haven’t already. And trying a different battery/SD card. Leica can provide information regarding your sensor generation (with serial number). This is important information for any current owner or buyer. I think the new, non-corroding sensors became available in early 2016. What are you buying? Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted May 24, 2022 Share #4 Posted May 24, 2022 (edited) Latest FW is 1.022… one linked above is older, sorry. You could speak with Josh at Leica Miami. He can probably help you sort through this, as he continually deals with trades requiring updates and other attention. Jeff Edited May 24, 2022 by Jeff S Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alberti Posted May 24, 2022 Share #5 Posted May 24, 2022 Or you might request @jaapv -. these mods know about the people to contact, he helped me in the past. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilfredo Posted May 24, 2022 Author Share #6 Posted May 24, 2022 4 hours ago, Jeff S said: https://www.reddotforum.com/content/2014/11/new-firmware-released-for-leica-m8-m9-m9-p-m-e-m-monochrom-m-typ-240-and-m-p-typ-240/ You might try resetting camera if you haven’t already. And trying a different battery/SD card. Leica can provide information regarding your sensor generation (with serial number). This is important information for any current owner or buyer. I think the new, non-corroding sensors became available in early 2016. What are you buying? Jeff My sensor was replaced by Leica. I had no idea there was a V. 52 and 53. The potential buyer wanted to know which version I had although I had already stated the sensor had been replaced. Yes, I tried reseting the camera but it made no difference. Perhaps reloading the firmware will fix it??? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilfredo Posted May 24, 2022 Author Share #7 Posted May 24, 2022 Advertisement (gone after registration) GOOD NEWS: I tried once again resetting the camera, switched the SD card, tested the self timer (for no particular sensible reason) and now it's back to normal. I put the first SD card in the camera, and it is still working as it should. She fires up when I turn her on. She's back to her old self!!! The moral of this story, don't mess with the software on your camera unless you absolutely know what you're doing. Funny thing though, when I unboxed the camera, since I had ready for sale, it looked as beautiful as ever, and I thought to myself, "do I really want to let go of this camera???" 8 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herr Barnack Posted May 24, 2022 Share #8 Posted May 24, 2022 5 minutes ago, wilfredo said: The moral of this story, don't mess with the software on your camera unless you absolutely know what you're doing... Feed your digital M cameras only firmware prepared by the gourmet chefs at Leica Wetzlar. Quote "do I really want to let go of this camera???" If you are asking that question, you know what the answer is... 😎 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted May 24, 2022 Share #9 Posted May 24, 2022 50 minutes ago, wilfredo said: My sensor was replaced by Leica. I had no idea there was a V. 52 and 53. The potential buyer wanted to know which version I had although I had already stated the sensor had been replaced. Yes, I tried reseting the camera but it made no difference. Perhaps reloading the firmware will fix it??? Yes, before coming up with a ‘permanent’ (non-corroding) version - pre 2016- they put in the same problematic sensor, which could corrode again. After that, the new version was used, with no recurring issues AFAIK. That’s why the buyer wants to know the sensor version, as should you. Glad my suggestions on resetting and replacing SD card worked. Again, what new gear are you using? Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilfredo Posted May 24, 2022 Author Share #10 Posted May 24, 2022 (edited) 37 minutes ago, Jeff S said: Yes, before coming up with a ‘permanent’ (non-corroding) version - pre 2016- they put in the same problematic sensor, which could corrode again. After that, the new version was used, with no recurring issues AFAIK. That’s why the buyer wants to know the sensor version, as should you. Glad my suggestions on resetting and replacing SD card worked. Again, what new gear are you using? Jeff Interesting. I went over the paper work and the sensor was replaced in 2018, so it looks like I'm in the safe zone. Thanks for this info, that's very helpful, and I was clueless about this. My latest Leica is the Q2 Monochrom, and I love it. I was struggling with focusing as I've lost some of the use of my left hand due to nerve damage, plus my 66 year old eyes are not what they used to be, so the Q2M has been a God sent. Edited May 24, 2022 by wilfredo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted May 24, 2022 Share #11 Posted May 24, 2022 13 minutes ago, wilfredo said: Interesting. I went over the paper work and the sensor was replaced in 2018, so it looks like I'm in the safe zone. Thanks for this info, that's very helpful, and I was clueless about this. My latest Leica is the Q2 Monochrom, and I love it. I was struggling with focusing as I've lost some of the use of my left hand due to nerve damage, plus my 66 year old eyes are not what they used to be, so the Q2M has been a God sent. Yes, you should be fine. Paperwork on replacement will aid sale/price, although Leica can also verify. Buyers also like to know number of shutter actuations. I hesitate to even tell you that there’s an ‘easy’ way to scroll the service menu to determine.😳 I bought an M10 Monochrom and had plans to trade my M9 Monochrom in the process (Leica Miami gave a generous estimate - 80% of FMV- about what I paid in 2017 on a mint copy). But I couldn’t bring myself to sell it, so now I use both Monochroms. Sorry to hear of your physical constraints; at 71, I can relate. Enjoy your Q2M. Jeff 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Albertson Posted May 24, 2022 Share #12 Posted May 24, 2022 I thought if the camera has FW 1.022 installed, that means the new, corrosion-resistant sensor has been installed. That version of the FW is only installed at the factory or Leica NJ as part of the sensor replacement, is not available for download. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnwolf Posted May 24, 2022 Share #13 Posted May 24, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, wilfredo said: Interesting. I went over the paper work and the sensor was replaced in 2018, so it looks like I'm in the safe zone.... Wilfredo, FWIW, if I were buying from you I'd want to know the CCD release. The date of the work wouldn't do it for me. I think other buyers will feel the same. The button series you were given is the service screen display sequence. No harm in executing it. You'll find it by searching this forum. Personally, I'd want to confirm it's the permanent replacement. John Edited May 24, 2022 by johnwolf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted May 25, 2022 Share #14 Posted May 25, 2022 2 hours ago, Chuck Albertson said: I thought if the camera has FW 1.022 installed, that means the new, corrosion-resistant sensor has been installed. That version of the FW is only installed at the factory or Leica NJ as part of the sensor replacement, is not available for download. My camera FW is 1.016, which was in place when I purchased it immediately following full service and new sensor from Germany in 2017, with paperwork. Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilfredo Posted May 25, 2022 Author Share #15 Posted May 25, 2022 13 hours ago, johnwolf said: Wilfredo, FWIW, if I were buying from you I'd want to know the CCD release. The date of the work wouldn't do it for me. I think other buyers will feel the same. The button series you were given is the service screen display sequence. No harm in executing it. You'll find it by searching this forum. Personally, I'd want to confirm it's the permanent replacement. John These are the instructions I received, and this didn't work. I could not find anything for the service screen on the M9 on this forum. Do you know of a link I can access? Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/332768-m-monochrom-wont-turn-on-without-removing-and-reinserting-the-battery/?do=findComment&comment=4441614'>More sharing options...
wilfredo Posted May 25, 2022 Author Share #16 Posted May 25, 2022 I'm wondering if I should call Leica and ask them if they have a record of what sensor was put in the camera? It's not on the paper work. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnwolf Posted May 25, 2022 Share #17 Posted May 25, 2022 6 minutes ago, wilfredo said: These are the instructions I received, and this didn't work. I could not find anything for the service screen on the M9 on this forum. Do you know of a link I can access? Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! That sequence looks right. I vaguely remember the speed of entry being important. Maybe keep trying. Sorry, it's been years for me. John Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Albertson Posted May 25, 2022 Share #18 Posted May 25, 2022 16 hours ago, Jeff S said: My camera FW is 1.016, which was in place when I purchased it immediately following full service and new sensor from Germany in 2017, with paperwork. Jeff Quite right, so was mine. Version 1.022 (which is available for download, contrary to what I said) added a profile for a newer lens. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
overexposed Posted May 29, 2022 Share #19 Posted May 29, 2022 On 5/25/2022 at 7:06 AM, Chuck Albertson said: I thought if the camera has FW 1.022 installed, that means the new, corrosion-resistant sensor has been installed. That version of the FW is only installed at the factory or Leica NJ as part of the sensor replacement, is not available for download. the firmware version has zero relation with what kind of sensor is installed 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alberti Posted June 20, 2022 Share #20 Posted June 20, 2022 From a totally different point - the camera is struggling to stay with you, Wilfredo. You know there is some anima in them, with your background. 😇 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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