How to Convert Leica iii 1938 + 1938 Elmar 5 cm to Wet Plate Collodion Sensivity and which Film, Developer, Filter combination ???

[Mustafa Umut Sarac]

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I learned the narrow the bandwidth of light , the lower the chromatic aberration. Higher the frequency , higher the resolution.  I want to convert leica iii in to wet plate emulator. I want to learn what leica users used to achieve this with film , developer and filter. How to do today ?

 

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[Ornello]

12 minutes ago, Mustafa Umut Sarac said:

I learned the narrow the bandwidth of light , the lower the chromatic aberration. Higher the frequency , higher the resolution.  I want to convert leica iii in to wet plate emulator. I want to learn what leica users used to achieve this with film , developer and filter. How to do today ?

 

47B blue filter and any B&W film.

Edited May 5, 2022 by Ornello

[Mustafa Umut Sarac]

8 minutes ago, Ornello said:

47B blue filter and any B&W film.

Does 47B Blue filter help to record uv portion if uv portion was a part of wet plate collodion ??

And what about ortho films ? Is there production today ?

I need to learn answer of uv question most importantly ?

 

 

 

Edited May 5, 2022 by Mustafa Umut Sarac

[250swb]

Rather than any B&W film you should try Ilford Ortho Plus, it would get you part of the way there given it is already fine grain film.

Edited May 5, 2022 by 250swb

[Mustafa Umut Sarac]

2 minutes ago, 250swb said:

Rather than any B&W film you should try Ilford Ortho Plus, it would get you part of the way there. 

Should I use 47B Filter with Ilford Ortho Plus ? What about the UV ? Have this film uv sensivity ? What should I do for uv ? I think it might be UV A but I am not sure ?

[250swb]

Start without a filter, you will definitely recognise the Ortho tonal range, but I suppose you could add a filter as well if it isn't strong enough.

If however your question was simply about achieving 'higher resolution' and not specifically the Ortho content then Adox CMS20 II used with the dedicated Adotech developer will get you medium format quality from 35mm. It is a more limited technique for general photography, for example the ISO you use is around 12 ISO (not 20 ISO), and you have to follow a slightly different but not difficult development regime.

Edited May 5, 2022 by 250swb

[Mustafa Umut Sarac]

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4 minutes ago, 250swb said:

Start without a filter, you will definitely recognise the Ortho tonal range, but I suppose you could add a filter as well if it isn't strong enough.

If however your question was simply about 'higher resolution' and not specifically the Ortho content then Adox CMS20 II used with the dedicated Adotech developer will get you medium format quality from 35mm. It is a more limited technique for general photography, for example the ISO you use is around 12 ISO (not 20 ISO), and you have to follow a slightly different but not difficult development regime.

I am after wet plate mountain photography. I am inspired with William Henry Jackson and ultra sensivity of wet plate to minute shadow , light differences texture. This is highly active quality. If I could get same color response. I want to get closest wet plate sensivity from combo. Tell me if ilford ortho plus has a uv sensivity or 47B Filter ? Or should I use uv filter and ortho film ?

[250swb]

Just now, Mustafa Umut Sarac said:

I am after wet plate mountain photography. I am inspired with William Henry Jackson and ultra sensivity of wet plate to minute shadow , light differences texture. This is highly active quality. If I could get same color response. I want to get closest wet plate sensivity from combo. Tell me if ilford ortho plus has a uv sensivity or 47B Filter ? Or should I use uv filter and ortho film ?

I think you need to start with the Ortho film and experiment, I've never used it at altitude, or with a filter, and while there are general principles to follow only experience will show. Either way you are far better off than starting with just a blue filter on regular film.

[Mustafa Umut Sarac]

22 minutes ago, 250swb said:

I think you need to start with the Ortho film and experiment, I've never used it at altitude, or with a filter, and while there are general principles to follow only experience will show. Either way you are far better off than starting with just a blue filter on regular film.

I loved your images , quality is amazing. Are there ilford ortho plus images ? can you send link ? wow !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Ornello]

A 47 or 47B filter transmits only blue light and UV (and far infrared, which is of no consequence for you). Wet plates did not have much sensitivity beyond blue. Any pan film will work.

https://www.lundphotographics.com/index.php/blog/tips_techniques/spectral_sensitivity_of_collodion_film.html

https://www.largeformatphotography.info/forum/showthread.php?158934-Wet-plate-collodion-spectral-sensitivity/page2

 

Edited May 5, 2022 by Ornello

[250swb]

12 hours ago, Mustafa Umut Sarac said:

I loved your images , quality is amazing. Are there ilford ortho plus images ? can you send link ? wow !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thank you. You can do a search of my Flickr pages and find a couple of medium format examples using Ilford Ortho Plus, but better still search the whole of Flickr. You will see some people use it like a normal film, and some exploit the qualities of an ortho film and create the style you are after.

It's certainly an interesting film and developing is easy, it can be processed in almost anything, I like Rodinal, HC-110, or 510 Pyro and it still maintains it's gentle tonal qualities. And that of course is the purpose of using an Ortho film rather than faking it with a filter and panchromatic film, simply excluding blue light doesn't change the inherent nature of the film being used, even with a blue filter Tri-X still reacts to light and shade, grain, contrast, etc. as Tri-X does. So if you want to mimic Pictorialism or Sally Mann start with a film that is literally on a similar wavelength.

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