Popular Post fotografr Posted May 3, 2022 Popular Post Share #1 Posted May 3, 2022 (edited) Advertisement (gone after registration) This man, likely long gone now, was a chief of the Lac Courte Oreilles tribe in northern Wisconsin. It's a scan of a Kodachrome image, then converted and toned. The reason for the silver toning is that I wanted to give it a kind of Edward Curtis look. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Edited May 3, 2022 by fotografr 34 1 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/332119-chief/?do=findComment&comment=4428583'>More sharing options...
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Leica_X Posted May 3, 2022 Share #2 Posted May 3, 2022 vor 2 Stunden schrieb fotografr: This man, likely long gone now, was a chief of the Lac Courte Oreilles tribe in northern Wisconsin. It's a scan of a Kodachrome image, then converted and toned. The reason for the silver toning is that I wanted to give it a kind of Edward Curtis look. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! The watch doesn't suit him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fotografr Posted May 3, 2022 Author Share #3 Posted May 3, 2022 1 minute ago, Leica_X said: The watch doesn't suit him. Why not? Doesn't he need to know what time it is? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leica_X Posted May 3, 2022 Share #4 Posted May 3, 2022 vor 8 Minuten schrieb fotografr: Why not? Doesn't he need to know what time it is? I've never seen a chief with a hand watch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pintpot Posted May 3, 2022 Share #5 Posted May 3, 2022 Doesn't take away from the fact it's a nice portrait, at least you resisted the temptation to clone the watch & cigarette out. Would I have done ... hmmmmm! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gelatino Posted May 3, 2022 Share #6 Posted May 3, 2022 Nice portrait indeed. Just for curiosity, you may tell us what he would say with the smoke signals🤔 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fotografr Posted May 3, 2022 Author Share #7 Posted May 3, 2022 (edited) Advertisement (gone after registration) 19 hours ago, Leica_X said: I've never seen a chief with a hand watch. How many chiefs have you seen? My uncle lived in Utah and was very good friends with a Ute chief named Thundercloud. I met him a few times when I was between five and ten years old. Chief Thundercloud wore a suit and tie and I'm pretty sure there was a watch under his sleeve. The man in this photo wasn't trying to pretend to be dressed in 1800s garb. This was his formal dress for the current period. There's no reason why he shouldn't have a watch on his wrist. I could have easily cloned it out, but why? If he chooses to wear a watch who are we to say it doesn't look "right?" Edited May 4, 2022 by fotografr 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fotografr Posted May 3, 2022 Author Share #8 Posted May 3, 2022 (edited) 33 minutes ago, Leica_X said: I've never seen a chief with a hand watch. I've never seen one without a watch. Edited May 3, 2022 by fotografr 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leica_X Posted May 3, 2022 Share #9 Posted May 3, 2022 (edited) vor 45 Minuten schrieb fotografr: How many chiefs have you seen? My uncle lived in Utah and was very good friends with a Ute chief named Thundercloud. I met him a few times when I was between five and ten years old. Chief Thundercloud wore a suit and tie and I'm pretty sure there was a watch under his sleeve. The man in this photo wasn't trying to pretend to be dressed in 1800s garb. This was his formal dress for the current period. There's no reason whatsoever why he shouldn't have a watch on his wrist. I could have easily cloned it out, but why? If he chooses to wear a watch who are we to say it doesn't look "right?" I haven't seen that many chiefs. I just wanted to point that out because i think it draws the eye to it in the photo. By the way, it's a very nice photo. Well done! Edited May 3, 2022 by Leica_X 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fotografr Posted May 3, 2022 Author Share #10 Posted May 3, 2022 1 minute ago, Leica_X said: I haven't seen that many chiefs. I just wanted to point that out because i think it draws the eye to it in the photo. By the way, it's a very nice photo. Well done! Thanks. At least it's not a Rolex. 😉 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry Taylor Posted May 3, 2022 Share #11 Posted May 3, 2022 5 hours ago, Leica_X said: The watch doesn't suit him. You beat me on this one, out of place and it's such a nice portrait too bad Brent you should have had him remove it. . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fotografr Posted May 4, 2022 Author Share #12 Posted May 4, 2022 (edited) 14 hours ago, Henry Taylor said: You beat me on this one, out of place and it's such a nice portrait too bad Brent you should have had him remove it. . This wasn't in a studio. It was an outdoor setting where he was an honored guest. He was not there for the purpose of being photographed by me. It would have been extremely rude and out of place for me to tell him to take off his watch so it would improve my photo. That kind of behavior gives photographers a bad reputation. Edited May 4, 2022 by fotografr Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Geschlecht Posted May 4, 2022 Share #13 Posted May 4, 2022 (edited) Hello Brent,, I think that, that is a very nice photo just as it is. Best Regards, Michael Edited May 4, 2022 by Michael Geschlecht 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fotografr Posted May 4, 2022 Author Share #14 Posted May 4, 2022 6 minutes ago, Michael Geschlecht said: Hello Brent,, I think that, that is a very nice photo just as it is. Best Regards, Michael Thanks very much, Michael. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herr Barnack Posted May 4, 2022 Share #15 Posted May 4, 2022 19 hours ago, fotografr said: Thanks. At least it's not a Rolex. 😉 A Patek Philippe would be more fitting for a man of his stature. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry Taylor Posted May 4, 2022 Share #16 Posted May 4, 2022 (edited) 17 hours ago, fotografr said: This wasn't in a studio. It was an outdoor setting where he was an honored guest. He was not there for the purpose of being photographed by me. It would have been extremely rude and out of place for me to tell him to take off his watch so it would improve my photo. That kind of behavior gives photographers a bad reputation. Not really, I'm sure with you warm personal and convincing personality would have won him over, This was a historic moment to be preserved for future generations and you the photographer were there! All you really needed to do was extend his left sleeve to cover his watch and it wouldn't have been noticed.😋 Edited May 4, 2022 by Henry Taylor added comment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fotografr Posted May 4, 2022 Author Share #17 Posted May 4, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Henry Taylor said: Not really, I'm sure with you warm personal and convincing personality would have won him over, This was a historic moment to be preserved for future generations and you the photographer were there! All you really needed to do was extend his left sleeve to cover his watch and it wouldn't have been noticed.😋 It's easy to make judgements from where you are, considering you have no idea what the circumstances were. First, what you suggest would not have been possible logistically for several reasons. Second, even if it had been possible, I wouldn't have done it. The watch doesn't bother me. You seem to be stuck in the mindset from the John Wayne westerns about what is and isn't proper attire for Native Americans. Perhaps you need to reassess and examine your bias. Cheers. Edited May 4, 2022 by fotografr Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry Taylor Posted May 4, 2022 Share #18 Posted May 4, 2022 Nice comment I would never expect you to be rude or disrespectful , you are not one to show audacity to your elders, keep that in mind when addressing me 😁 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fotografr Posted May 4, 2022 Author Share #19 Posted May 4, 2022 1 minute ago, Henry Taylor said: Nice comment I would never expect you to be rude or disrespectful , you are not one to show audacity to your elders, keep that in mind when addressing me 😁 Respect is earned. Not acquired by age. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Geschlecht Posted May 5, 2022 Share #20 Posted May 5, 2022 Hello Everybody, A historical record (The photo.) should reflect the actual circumstances. Which, in this instance, is a person wearing a watch who is smoking a cigarette. Best Regards, Michael 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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