stunsworth Posted September 7, 2007 Share #21 Posted September 7, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) Hi Bob, a few weeks ago Ffordes in the UK had a Pre-ASPH lens in stock and I asked them to test if it focussed to infinity on an M8. It didn't. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted September 7, 2007 Posted September 7, 2007 Hi stunsworth, Take a look here 35lux: to ASPH or not to ASPH?that is the question.... I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
pklein Posted September 7, 2007 Share #22 Posted September 7, 2007 Sean, are you compensating any for the 35/1.4 Asph's focus shift at mid apertures? When I test for the shift, I can see it. I still don't completely have a handle on how much it matters in practical photography. With practical stuff at letter size or smaller, sometimes it seems to matter and often not. --Peter Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie Roberts Posted September 7, 2007 Share #23 Posted September 7, 2007 I love the look of the pre-asph lenses, but my favourite all-time 35mm lens is the ASPH 35 Lux. It's one of the sharpest wides out there; OOF areas are very beautiful, too. Stopped down it's almost too high-contrast, but with a bit of work it repays the efforts in spades. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luigi bertolotti Posted September 7, 2007 Share #24 Posted September 7, 2007 Thanks Luigi...Where do I get those lenses in Milan? And where was your lens built?is it Canadian or German?Do you know the year too? it would be preciuos... regards Maurizio Quickly surfing on the Net, I saw 35 Lux Pre Asph here (Milano) : Foto Ottica Cavour Newoldcamera - Home page and in Bologna too Leica, Nikon, Ducati, Hasselblad, Linhof no items at "Il Contatto" of Turin... My old 35 pre asph is a Canada (all of them came out from Ontario, for many many years for what I know) , chrome 1.765.850 (they started at 1.760.000) : this means 1960 as manufacturing (the lens was officially introduced in 1961) ; seems that production volumes were rather low: somewhere I red of 1.118 items in 1960-1968 timeframe (but there was also the goggled version for M3). My one focuses at infinity with M8: but the reported problem is real : some items have "something" next to the flange that preventes infinity focus on M8... there was a thread about months ago, with detailed pictures... was a surprise for me: I thought the Lux had remained unmodified for lot of years, but clearly is not so: of course, if you find one is better to VERIFY this. Beware of the filter problem : my, and think all the "oldies" have E41 thread... Just to be clear : I speak of it for is one of the lenses I sincerely LOVE for its look and feel: chroming is supernice and makes it look as a sort of jewel (similar to the first Super Angulon f4, that is MUCH LESS usable...). Even its old hood (OLLUX) is pleasant... Good Search Luigi Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sean_reid Posted September 7, 2007 Share #25 Posted September 7, 2007 Sean, are you compensating any for the 35/1.4 Asph's focus shift at mid apertures? When I test for the shift, I can see it. I still don't completely have a handle on how much it matters in practical photography. With practical stuff at letter size or smaller, sometimes it seems to matter and often not. --Peter Hi Peter, No, in actual use, I don't compensate for that at all with the 35/1.4 ASPH or any other lens. Cheers, Sean Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luigi bertolotti Posted September 7, 2007 Share #26 Posted September 7, 2007 Not all have this problem. Mine does, yet three (I think) my dealer had focused to infinity OK. When we compared the lenses it was clear that the shroud on mine protruded a few mm further into the camera body. I thought I could fix the problem and still have protection for the rear element by machining off a small amount of material from the back of the shroud. No such luck - I found that the amount of material which had to be removed left the rear element unprotected from being placed on a flat surface. It's not simply the length of the shroud, there must be other mechanical/optical differences in the lens construction. I did tell Leica in the UK about the problem but they said it was unknown to them. There have been several other reports on the net since so mine isn't unique. In hindsight I should have checked how far the rear lens cell, which the shroud attaches to, protruded into the camera body. Bob. CONFIRM : my one focuses at infinity on M8 BUT ... you cannot take the risk to put it on a flat surface unless reverted... absolutely needs always the BM back cover: I speculate mine is this for being one of the very first (1960), then they modified to fix the problem of placing it "bareback" ... and years after here is the M8 problem... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhawker Posted September 7, 2007 Share #27 Posted September 7, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) Maurizio, I have and enjoy using a pre asph 35 summilux. It's wonderfully compact and delivers a nice photograph with the m8. Others have provided such nice samples I thought I would contribute also. I have attached a link http://www.siumed.edu/pubs/aspects/Sp07/s1.pdf to a story with photographs made using the lens. JH Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rebride Posted September 7, 2007 Share #28 Posted September 7, 2007 "Bokeh" is a matter of taste, though, I love the way the 35/1.4 ASPH renders OOF areas..... I prefer the smaller size of the 35/1.4 Asph, though, and it is one of my favorite Leica lenses. Cheers, Sean I'm with Sean in this discussion. If you can afford it, go for 35mm Lux. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pemayeux Posted September 7, 2007 Share #29 Posted September 7, 2007 I'm with Sean too. These shots are all with the 35/1.4 ASPH. Some are film, some are M8. Paul E. Mayeux, Jr. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
grduprey Posted September 8, 2007 Share #30 Posted September 8, 2007 Thanks a lot guys!I have read all your comments, and they're really useful to me. I like the compactness of both 35cron asph, and 35lux preasph... i don't like so much those heavy-weight lenses (i own a 75lux and it's just enough to carry) so that's why i don't want a 35 nokton (even if i like its quality soooo... much), and that's why i would prefer both cron and pre-asph to the new asph. How do you feel with it? I'm completing my new lens set to carry with me, i.e 15cv + 21elmarit (or 25zeiss) + 35 (lux or cron asph or pre-asph) + 75 lux. I already have a 15cv a 28cron a 28elmarit ASPH, a 50 elmarit and a 75 lux... I had a 35cron ASPH in the past (my first lens).. i'm so confused and troubled now. Maybe i will follow clyde's suggestion... a used pre-asph lux?... mmm... what you think about? How would you complete my set?Consider the fact that i'm not going to take my 28's. I can't find the mood with that focal lenght... so far... thanks for all your precious comments... and still, every shots to see are welcome.. regards Maurizio Maurizio, I have the 35 pre-Asph 'Lux, a Titanium, German version. Personnaly I like it, especially on the M8, for some reason I think it performs better on the M8 than on my M6TTL, it just seems sharper. Love its size, andwith my 28 Elmarit Asph, the two of them make a nice kit with my 50 'Cron, I also have the Thin 90 Tele-Elmarit. All together they make a very compact kit for the M8 or even the M6TTL. I would certainly reccomend the pre-Asph, especially a late German version. I found mine in So. Calif. at a dealer, it was New Old Stock for about $1600. Probably a bit high for a used one, but since it was NOS, it seemed a good deal at the time. Even today it seemed like it was a good deal as I do like the lens. Gene Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
grduprey Posted September 8, 2007 Share #31 Posted September 8, 2007 Oh yes, the 49 mm UV/IR Leica filter fits the 12505 hood also. Mine focuses just fine at infinity film or digital. Luigi is right though, make sure the rear element is back in the barrel before you set it down on the bayonet end as it will be vulnerable to damage. Best to sit down front first and a cap on the back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hacker Posted September 8, 2007 Share #32 Posted September 8, 2007 My 35 Lux ASPH shots from today: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
voightL Posted September 8, 2007 Share #33 Posted September 8, 2007 My 35 Lux ASPH shots from today: Nice pics:) There's a Cron28Asph on ebay: Gorgeous Leica 28mm Summicron-M ASPH 6-bit lens MINT - (eBay item 130151210529 end time Sep-16-07 14:16:24 PDT) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hacker Posted September 9, 2007 Share #34 Posted September 9, 2007 Nice pics:) There's a Cron28Asph on ebay:Gorgeous Leica 28mm Summicron-M ASPH 6-bit lens MINT - (eBay item 130151210529 end time Sep-16-07 14:16:24 PDT) . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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