Adam Bonn Posted February 13, 2023 Share #401  Posted February 13, 2023 Advertisement (gone after registration) 2 minutes ago, M Street Photographer said: Woooow, what a big picture. Color, street, movement, I could now say a few things about the content, not technically, but every word would probably not be suitable enough. Adam, this belongs in print and in the category "picture of the month" if not one of the year. Thank you very much Klaus, I hope I haven't taken my 'picture of the year' already seeing as it's only February (last year it was in August) I am happy with this one, I mean shallow DOF stationary tables, fishing buoys etc are all pretty enough (that reminds me I shot a load more of them yesterday!!!) but this one I like as a photo and the lens compliments it (it would probably work just as well at 2.8 on a cron tbh) which makes it one of the few photos I've taken with the CV50/1 that's more about the content than the DOF. I hope to make more.. There's two I took yesterday that I like too, but one was stopped down so not really about the lens.... I'm thinking I might shoot the 50/1 more at 1.2 @ middle distances for a bit of a DOF buffer and vignette reducer... I'm still really happy with the lens (doesn't feel so big and heavy now! I used the 28/2.8 in the week and it made the camera feel non-existent !!!!), my hunch (never owned one) is that FredMiranda/mr.Leica are probably correct in that the performance of the CV 50/1 isn't sufficiently greater than the CV 50/1.2 for the extra size and cost, and my other personal thought is that the 50 lux asph is still the king of the compromise between speed/size/weight/IQ (and I actually own that lens) But I wanted F1 and I wanted FLE and I feel I'm making the 50/1 work for me so I'm not regretting my decision at all. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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01maciel Posted February 13, 2023 Share #402  Posted February 13, 2023 vor 55 Minuten schrieb Adam Bonn: Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! M9 and CV50/1 (I'm pleased with this one in that I like it as a photo -YMMV- and I was very pleased it's -more or less- in acceptable focus, trying to focus at F1 on a tram traveling towards me whilst not being hit by said tram was a bit of a challenge... a bit like throwing a screwed up bit of paper into the trash can on the other side of the room... did I mean to do that? Yes of course! Could I make that shot every time? ahahaha f*ck no.) It's really nice. Have you added some contrast to the photo in pp? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
M Street Photographer Posted February 13, 2023 Share #403 Â Posted February 13, 2023 I already wrote that for me height and weight is more of an advantage than a negative. Maybe it's also because I'm used to the Canon 50 0.95, which is slightly smaller and similar in weight. And yes, you can compare lenses with each other and you will see advantages and disadvantages everywhere and also in terms of the purchase price. But I think we're past the testing phase now and should use it. Here and there we will come to further insights and take them into account in our applications when taking photos. I'm now ready to take pictures, take what I think would fit, like you did with the 28mm. We have so many beautiful, special lenses with specific characteristics that now after the first phase of the 50 1.0, we should rely more on our emotion about what we are up to and what would be fun for us that day. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Bonn Posted February 13, 2023 Share #404  Posted February 13, 2023 18 minutes ago, 01maciel said: It's really nice. Have you added some contrast to the photo in pp? Thank you. The M9 can be (not always) quite contrasty from the get go... but for this shot I did this... which is a fairly typical set of adjustments I'd make on any M DNG, obviously OMWV Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/327343-voigtlander-50mm-f1-vm/?do=findComment&comment=4684423'>More sharing options...
Adam Bonn Posted February 13, 2023 Share #405  Posted February 13, 2023 14 minutes ago, M Street Photographer said: But I think we're past the testing phase now and should use it. Here and there we will come to further insights and take them into account in our applications when taking photos. Exactly this, personally I feel for me there's a slight risk of funnelling myself into only wide open pictures of stationary things with the 50/1 (as it makes them look good), but really I want to use it as I would any lens = at a variety of apertures and with a variety of subjects Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
01maciel Posted February 13, 2023 Share #406 Â Posted February 13, 2023 I find that the out-of-focus part of an image taken with the aperture wide open adds to the beauty of an image. That's why I personally try not to process these parts of the image further. The use of masks is quite helpful and has the advantage of preserving the original bokeh that the lens renders. Imho, the rendering of the CV Nokton 1.0 in general suits my taste and does not need to hide behind the other big known brands. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
M Street Photographer Posted February 13, 2023 Share #407  Posted February 13, 2023 (edited) Advertisement (gone after registration) vor 21 Minuten schrieb Adam Bonn: Thank you. The M9 can be (not always) quite contrasty from the get go... but for this shot I did this... which is a fairly typical set of adjustments I'd make on any M DNG, obviously OMWV Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! This roughly corresponds to my basic settings for the M10 R, which Thorsten Overgaard also uses for the M10 R, by the way. Lately I've even tended to throw in some Dehaze + 5-8. Right now I'm in the phase of liking a little more saturated photos and also correcting the exposure - 0.7. But sometimes you live certain phases for a while and it doesn't have to last forever. Edited February 13, 2023 by M Street Photographer 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Bonn Posted February 13, 2023 Share #408  Posted February 13, 2023 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members!  As the kidz almost certainly don't say anymore.... booyakasha 😅 I think it's quite cool that LFI respect a photo taken on a 13+ year old model and with a competitor's lens. I've tried 5 times to get into LFI now, succeeding twice!! Things are like this are nice (like getting into flickr explore), but sadly they're not really life changing. Still a pleasing start to my time with the CV50/1  7 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members!  As the kidz almost certainly don't say anymore.... booyakasha 😅 I think it's quite cool that LFI respect a photo taken on a 13+ year old model and with a competitor's lens. I've tried 5 times to get into LFI now, succeeding twice!! Things are like this are nice (like getting into flickr explore), but sadly they're not really life changing. Still a pleasing start to my time with the CV50/1  ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/327343-voigtlander-50mm-f1-vm/?do=findComment&comment=4684454'>More sharing options...
Adam Bonn Posted February 13, 2023 Share #409  Posted February 13, 2023 31 minutes ago, 01maciel said: he use of masks is quite helpful and has the advantage of preserving the original bokeh  30 minutes ago, M Street Photographer said: This roughly corresponds to my basic settings for the M10 R, which Thorsten Overgaard also uses for the M10 R, by the way. Lately I've even tended to throw in some Dehaze + 5-8. I spent so long on LR6 and I only went to CC one year ago that I sort of forget that LR has these features 😂🙄 I think how to edit is on the one hand quite personal, but also the act of shooting RAW means that we all end up needing to get details from the highlights and shadows, then use the white and black sliders to get the contrast back I also write my own camera profiles, so how my colours and tones look is a little bit different to the standard M10R profiles.. less accurate but more punchy I guess. But the CV 50/1 thread isn't the place for all of that! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
M Street Photographer Posted February 13, 2023 Share #410  Posted February 13, 2023 Adam, Please no modesty. I congratulate ! As I immediately said: A good, a great picture. And in the end, as is so often the case: the result is decisive. In an exhibition nobody asks "With which camera and which lens did you take that?" just as little as "nice bokeh, which aperture was that?" So , be proud of your photo 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Bonn Posted February 13, 2023 Share #411  Posted February 13, 2023 I am proud and more than that I feel that ultimately the photographer has the final say on their photo... eg if I think my photo's good and no one else does, then I still think it's good (and the other way round too) But it's nice when someone else likes it enough to promote it and Leica is a great many things, but let's not lose sight of its main function in life... To sell things from its current catalogue.... LFI didn't like my best photo of 2022, so I guess this makes up for it 😂 If anyone cares (what I consider to be) my best 2022 photo can be seen here (M10 + 35 cron, so I won't post the image in the 50/1 thread) 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
M Street Photographer Posted February 13, 2023 Share #412 Â Posted February 13, 2023 Of course we take pictures for ourselves first. But of course we also want recognition from others, which strengthens our opinion about our own good photo. Your best offs are more than worthy of note, and while it's on the tip of my tongue and would be warranted, I'll stick with Adam in addressing you, though Master, would be appropriate. And I mean it ! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Bonn Posted February 13, 2023 Share #413  Posted February 13, 2023 11 minutes ago, M Street Photographer said: Of course we take pictures for ourselves first. But of course we also want recognition from others, which strengthens our opinion about our own good photo. Your best offs are more than worthy of note, and while it's on the tip of my tongue and would be warranted, I'll stick with Adam in addressing you, though Master, would be appropriate. And I mean it ! That's very humbling, but sincerely calling me Adam is perfect. I'm fortunate that - I've been photographing a long time (some decades) - I started at a young age - I received a formal education in photography - I live somewhere nice to photograph with nice weather for much of the year (this wasn't always true!) - I don't work so I have a lot of time to photograph And really when you can devote not only time, but also time without distraction to something then one tends to develop at doing it. Many people are good photographers but they have to balance a day job and/or many other things, or even they're professional photographers but then they need to balance their client work and personal projects... ...occasionally I work for money, but I'm basically free to photograph pretty much as often as I like and whatever I like. This is good for growth (and the soul) To be honest, (and remember folks only see the photos I consider good enough to share) I often think I should be a LOT better at this by now... and I still make silly mistakes, or have a better idea for a frame long after the opportunity has passed (a bit like thinking of a witty come back a day too late!) Recognition is nice, but it's not really a tangible thing and I quite obsessively pursue things whether I'm being lauded or ignored (and do something long enough and one will go through periods of high and low recognition again and again and again)  2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
M Street Photographer Posted February 13, 2023 Share #414 Â Posted February 13, 2023 (edited) That's probably true Adam. If, like both of us, you no longer work, then you are very fortunate "that we no longer have to meet the expectations of others". We can devote ourselves to the things that fulfill us, take pictures without financial pressure, and don't have to hang our flag to the wind. This is the only way to develop freely. I too have very obsessive phases where I don't do or see anything other than dedication, photography. Unfortunately, I only started discovering the hobby for myself 15 years ago. For health reasons, I was no longer able to practice my profession. And still today I am grateful that I found photography in all its facets, a "never ending story". Dealing with technology, here also with lenses, is essential, without which a targeted repetition in the application is not possible. Even if it is occasionally lucky to take a good snapshot - I would like to be aware of this, to know why and how it came about and to be able to repeat it if necessary, also in variants. Envy, I don't know, but could be a little jealous of the wonderful weather where you are. For months we have only had gray in gray in Berlin, some snow, a lot of reef, unpleasant wind and temperatures between 5 and - 6 C. It's hard to go out there, be productive and have fun. With a bit of luck, the whole thing will change in 6 weeks, but I wouldn't bet on it. Edited February 13, 2023 by M Street Photographer 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Bonn Posted February 13, 2023 Share #415  Posted February 13, 2023 I spent the first 40 years of my life living in the UK, so I know well the gray, the rain and that seasonal sadness that comes when the weather is bad for a long time. (Although climate change has actually closed the gap between southern england and northern Portugal considerably since I moved here 😅) The other thing that has helped me (I think...) grow photographically since moving to Portugal (the first thing is just the huge culture shock and excitement of living in a new country) is that I don't speak much Portuguese, this means that -especially at first when I spoke zero Portuguese- my only real way of telling things like the mood of the room is to read people, notice the difference in their body language, not trying to be offensive to anyone (...) but as a sweeping generalisation, the Portuguese talk with more arm movements and hand gestures than the English, so what looks like an angry English person having a argument on the phone is a Portuguese person having a normal call. All these little nuances in the people have been part of the adventure and something to focus the eye and got me used to feeling comfortable observing people unashamedly.  3 hours ago, M Street Photographer said: Envy, I don't know, but could be a little jealous of the wonderful weather where you are. Yeah that's totally fair enough - for about 2 hours in the afternoon it was 19 deg today 😇  1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
M Street Photographer Posted February 13, 2023 Share #416 Â Posted February 13, 2023 (edited) If I wasn't terrified of flying I would love to come to Porto for a few days. Enjoy the photo walk and the weather. My wife said "go ahead, no problem". Therefore there would be no difficulties. Let's see how I manage to tame the fear. Unfortunately, tranquilizers didn't help and it's a bit too far by train. Direct flight time 3:15 minutes Edited February 13, 2023 by M Street Photographer 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Bonn Posted February 13, 2023 Share #417  Posted February 13, 2023 39 minutes ago, M Street Photographer said: If I wasn't terrified of flying I would love to come to Porto for a few days. Enjoy the photo walk and the weather. My wife said "go ahead, no problem". Therefore there would be no difficulties. Let's see how I manage to tame the fear. Unfortunately, tranquilizers didn't help and it's a bit too far by train. Direct flight time 3:15 minutes Mrs Adam doesn't like to fly but she took some course and now it's ok... (I think... she hasn't flown since before lockdown, mrs Adam would also like to visit Berlin (as would I for that matter) Is the flight really that long? To London it's about 2 hours... Personally I'm ok with flying, heights, tight spaces, snakes, spiders, lizards all cool.... big deep water, no way... screw that Typically Porto rains a LOT between October and early Jan, then dries out and has lovely sunny days (but quite cold nights) then in March it starts raining again sometimes even into May/June. It's a sort of unlikely to go under 5 deg or over 29 climate. But the interior has quite marked seasons, snow in winter and 35 in summer 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Bonn Posted February 13, 2023 Share #418  Posted February 13, 2023 (edited) Ok well you had the cool shallow DOF street photo, so now it's back to boring things made visually interesting via the magic of shallow DOF 😅 Shot all these yesterday. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members!  I haven't really edited them too much... just playing with the lens really... look closely and you'll probably see more purple haze than a Hendrix greatest hits record They'll all be F1 or F1.2 (it's hard to tell... the camera guesses the aperture and the vignette doesn't change the exposure much between the 2 F-stops) Edited February 13, 2023 by Adam Bonn 4 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members!  I haven't really edited them too much... just playing with the lens really... look closely and you'll probably see more purple haze than a Hendrix greatest hits record They'll all be F1 or F1.2 (it's hard to tell... the camera guesses the aperture and the vignette doesn't change the exposure much between the 2 F-stops) ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/327343-voigtlander-50mm-f1-vm/?do=findComment&comment=4684859'>More sharing options...
Adam Bonn Posted February 13, 2023 Share #419  Posted February 13, 2023 I'll say this for the wide open centre sharpness.... actually I won't say anything... you judge  Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members!  (I was actually trying to focus on the name of the boat but I had to lean over a railing and contort myself into some pilates type pose, so I'm not beating myself up about missing than one) 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members!  (I was actually trying to focus on the name of the boat but I had to lean over a railing and contort myself into some pilates type pose, so I'm not beating myself up about missing than one) ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/327343-voigtlander-50mm-f1-vm/?do=findComment&comment=4684863'>More sharing options...
Adam Bonn Posted February 14, 2023 Share #420  Posted February 14, 2023 Couple of night time shots I took on my way to get food from the local sushi joint be told to sod off from the local sushi joint because they're too busy to take orders  Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 1 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/327343-voigtlander-50mm-f1-vm/?do=findComment&comment=4686174'>More sharing options...
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