jaeger Posted December 9, 2021 Share #1 Posted December 9, 2021 Advertisement (gone after registration) It seems to be an interesting lens. NOKTON 50mm f/1.0 Aspherical VM 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Al Brown Posted December 9, 2021 Share #2 Posted December 9, 2021 Looks suspiciously like the 1961 Canon 50mm/0.95 "dream" lens. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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FrozenInTime Posted December 9, 2021 Share #3 Posted December 9, 2021 It will be as interesting to see how this monster is marketed as it will be to see the sample photos. 2022 looks set to bring us more threads about : viewfinder blockage, field curvature, vignetting, onion rings, cat's eyes , purple fringing , flare ... 2 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaeger Posted December 9, 2021 Author Share #4 Posted December 9, 2021 59 minutes ago, Al Brown said: Looks suspiciously like the 1961 Canon 50mm/0.95 "dream" lens. 11 minutes ago, FrozenInTime said: It will be as interesting to see how this monster is marketed as it will be to see the sample photos. 2022 looks set to bring us more threads about : viewfinder blockage, field curvature, vignetting, onion rings, cat's eyes , purple fringing , flare ... I would combine these 2 comments like this "the 1961 Canon 50mm/0.95 "dream" lens" + "viewfinder blockage, field curvature, vignetting, onion rings, cat's eyes , purple fringing , flare" I kinda have some good feelings toward recent design voigtlanders lenses. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Brown Posted December 9, 2021 Share #5 Posted December 9, 2021 1 minute ago, jaeger said: I would combine these 2 comments like this "the 1961 Canon 50mm/0.95 "dream" lens" + "viewfinder blockage, field curvature, vignetting, onion rings, cat's eyes , purple fringing , flare" I kinda have some good feelings toward recent design voigtlanders lenses. No doubt the Voigt will be better than the 'ole Dreamo. I have it on my watch list. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrozenInTime Posted December 9, 2021 Share #6 Posted December 9, 2021 14 minutes ago, jaeger said: I would combine these 2 comments like this "the 1961 Canon 50mm/0.95 "dream" lens" + "viewfinder blockage, field curvature, vignetting, onion rings, cat's eyes , purple fringing , flare" I kinda have some good feelings toward recent design voigtlanders lenses. I have enjoyed the drawing of the 50/1.5 Heliar classic more that the perfection of the 50/2 APO-Lanthar, so hope the 50/1 will not take itself too seriously ; after all it already looks like a clown of a lens 🙂 4 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrozenInTime Posted December 10, 2021 Share #7 Posted December 10, 2021 Advertisement (gone after registration) https://www.cosina.co.jp/voigtlander/en/vm-mount/nokton-50mm-f1-aspherical/ 2 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cboy Posted December 10, 2021 Share #8 Posted December 10, 2021 (edited) So it's a double aspherical 50mm f1! 😁 . What does 'grinding' aspherical mean btw. I love that they kept similar in styling to the f1.1. Personally I hated the chrome ring look. I believe we'll have another winner here folks ( pending clean aspherical bokeh balls) lol. And just when I was about to give in to the mic noct. knock offs Edited December 10, 2021 by cboy 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
a.noctilux Posted December 10, 2021 Share #9 Posted December 10, 2021 (edited) 43 minutes ago, cboy said: So it's a double aspherical 50mm f1! 😁 . What does 'grinding' aspherical mean btw. I love that they kept similar in styling to the f1.1. Personally I hated the chrome ring look. I believe we'll have another winner here folks ( pending clean aspherical bokeh balls) lol. And just when I was about to give in to the mic noct. knock offs For some decades now, aspherical glass elements are molded when hot melting glass still 'soft' with two ceramic parents. This technic is not suitable with large surface and/or some kind of glass (which one type is used in this Nokton 1.0). The other asph. element, at rear 'aspherical' at each side, being smaller (or right type of glass) could be molded type in this Nokton 1.0. Grinding is long time individual job with precision 'diamond' turning tools. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Anyway, the onion ring would be there with aspherical elements Maybe the grinding is fine enough to avoid the onion ring ? I'll give it a try when available. Edited December 10, 2021 by a.noctilux 2 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Anyway, the onion ring would be there with aspherical elements Maybe the grinding is fine enough to avoid the onion ring ? I'll give it a try when available. ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/327343-voigtlander-50mm-f1-vm/?do=findComment&comment=4329565'>More sharing options...
cboy Posted December 10, 2021 Share #10 Posted December 10, 2021 Thanks. I understand that's the reason why Leica lost money producing their first aspherical lenses as it was hand ground. I guess machining is now at stage that it can be machined polished to more exacting tolerances that minimises onion ringing? But I thought machine grinding aspherical was a common practice and I never heard it was ever marketed such as 'GA' Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyCheng Posted December 10, 2021 Share #11 Posted December 10, 2021 if it behaves like the 50 1.2 Nokton ASPH with an extra half a stop, I'm sold. I so love that lens, creamy wide open, pin-sharp stopped down, can do anything with it. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ouroboros Posted December 10, 2021 Share #12 Posted December 10, 2021 This one can join my Heliar Classic. Two new fast 50mm lenses with (I expect) completely different characters. Cosina are on a roll! 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexander-HH Posted December 10, 2021 Share #13 Posted December 10, 2021 (edited) Very curious how this turns out. Too bad it only goes down to 0.9 m, especially since it is equipped with a FLE floating element mechanism to improve quality at MFD according to Voigtlander. Edited December 10, 2021 by Alexander-HH Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LarsHP Posted December 10, 2021 Share #14 Posted December 10, 2021 Minimum focus distance = 0.9 meter. This is the biggest issue I have with the specs of this lens. It means no floating elements and (too) poor performance at shorter focus distances. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LarsHP Posted December 10, 2021 Share #15 Posted December 10, 2021 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Alexander-HH said: Very curious how this turns out. Too bad it only goes down to 0.9 m, especially since it is equipped with a FLE floating element mechanism to improve quality at MFD according to Voigtlander. It's because it doesn't have a floating lens element, as far as I can see. Where do you read that it's an FLE design? Edited December 10, 2021 by LarsHP Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexander-HH Posted December 10, 2021 Share #16 Posted December 10, 2021 (edited) vor 2 Minuten schrieb LarsHP: It's because it doesn't have a floating lens element, as far as I can see. Where do you read that it's an FLE design? On Vogtlanders website (German) - it is on the right to the lens diagram, in the fourth paragraph: https://www.voigtlaender.de/objektive/vm/50-mm-11-nokton/ Edited December 10, 2021 by Alexander-HH 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexander-HH Posted December 10, 2021 Share #17 Posted December 10, 2021 (edited) It is specifically mentioned to be the reason for excellent sharpness of this lens at MFD, so I think (hope) it is no mistake. Edited December 10, 2021 by Alexander-HH Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Brown Posted December 10, 2021 Share #18 Posted December 10, 2021 So the price is set at around $2000... Does not go well with 0.9m MFD. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LarsHP Posted December 10, 2021 Share #19 Posted December 10, 2021 1 minute ago, Alexander-HH said: On Vogtlanders website (German) - it is on the right to the lens diagram, in the fourth paragraph: https://www.voigtlaender.de/objektive/vm/50-mm-11-nokton/ Thanks for pointing that out. However, it's not stated in the English / Japanese site. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prosophos Posted December 10, 2021 Share #20 Posted December 10, 2021 Just now, Al Brown said: So the price is set at around $2000... Does not go well with 0.9m MFD. Unless you're shooting an M3 that has had its minimum focus distance reduced to 0.9... like mine... but I realize I'm a dinosaur Mind you, a 1m min focus distance never stopped the Leica 50/1 from becoming popular. —Peter. 6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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