Will there be another D?

[Guest Nowhereman]

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1 hour ago, Datsch said:

Just to clarify, some sales estimates:

M60       600

M-D        1500

M10-D   2000

So we see a clear upward trend in interest and demand for the screenless M over the years...

At these low numbers, that's hardly trend. If memory serves me, the M60 and the M-D were both based on the M240 — and the M60 was a special edition that was about twice the price of the M-D. So, in a statistical context, this isn't a trend and even less so in the context of production planning. Now, taking the total M60 and the M-D as a percentage of M240/M262(?) produced and comparing to total to M10-Ds as a percentage of M10s produced, is likely to show decline in that percentage.

But where does the 2000 figure come from? Were there really so few M10-Ds produced? If so, it's not surprising that the M10-D has been terminated.
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[a.noctilux]

Take it easy 👍

M11 in few months

then M11-P in another few months more (years ?)

then M11-R or M11-M to be decided which one first

 

if the M12 will be late,

why not produce M11-D while waiting, but not reliable situation

[Guest Nowhereman]

2 minutes ago, a.noctilux said:

...M11 in few months...

From what's been said in the M11 thread, it could be more than just a few months — perhaps well into the second half of 2022...
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[a.noctilux]

1 minute ago, Nowhereman said:

From what's been said in the M11 thread, it could be more than just a few months — perhaps well into the second half of 2022...
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😉Let's see ...

[adan]

6 hours ago, Nowhereman said:

perhaps well into the second half of 2022...

A bit of an exaggeration - Feb. 2022 is the postponed announcement date right now. Not that it couldn't slip again.

[adan]

22 minutes ago, Al Brown said:

But how long before preorders are shipping after that? 😑

Generally speaking, Leica has been ready to ship product on the day of announcement ever since the M9 (I got my pre-ordered M9 within 7 days of the announcement.)

My M10 took 5 weeks - because I didn't order until announcement day.

Now there may well be people who are not paying attention, or lackadaisical about putting in their "pre"-orders - and end up behind 10000 other people. Or by choice or circumstance, live in less well-served parts of the world.

But fools cannot be protected from their folly.

[willeica]

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20 minutes ago, adan said:

 

But fools cannot be protected from their folly.

 

Andy, is that a tongue in your cheek that I see?

You could equally have said 'easily parted with their cash', in which case they are not fools to mix a metaphor up a bit. Some of my Leicas took 90 years to get to me and they were still working very well. 

When I was in Wetzlar in September I was left with the impression that the M11 might be delayed. I suspect that the shortage of chips/memory for sensors, which is a worldwide situation at the moment, might have something to do with this. 

I will buy an M11 at some stage, but the absence of one for some time won't put a 'hole in my life'. 

William