serial and model number

[matt.tyler]

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Hi,

I have a question: how can I find out what model number a lens has by serial number and year?

Summilux-M 1.4/35mm

Known serial: 3 282 xxx

Thanks

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[a.noctilux]

First approximation ...in Wiki

https://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-wiki.en/index.php/35mm_f/1.4_Summilux_II

...

3281401

3282400

35mm f/1.4 Summilux-M (ELC.black)

1983

1000

[matt.tyler]

Thank you, I had also found that. But then how do I get further to the model number?

[adan]

Which model number do you mean? It is a so-called Version II (see link title in post #2), but also (if the wiki is correct) black anodized, which gives it a catalog number of 11870.

Also, if you don't already know, Leica pre-assigned S/Ns in blocks: "The next 1000 35mm Summiluxes we make will get numbers 3281401 through 3282400"

That block of numbers was not used up and replaced with a new block  until 1985, so it may be a 1983 or a 1984 (or even possibly an early 1985) lens.

(In other words, Leica serial numbers sometimes have to be read like animal entrails )

But in any case a version II (2), and a 11870 black lens.

[matt.tyler]

vor 18 Minuten schrieb adan:

Which model number do you mean? It is a so-called Version II (see link title in post #2), but also (if the wiki is correct) black anodized, which gives it a catalog number of 11870.

Also, if you don't already know, Leica pre-assigned S/Ns in blocks: "The next 1000 35mm Summiluxes we make will get numbers 3281401 through 3282400"

That block of numbers was not used up and replaced with a new block  until 1985, so it may be a 1983 or a 1984 (or even possibly an early 1985) lens.

(In other words, Leica serial numbers sometimes have to be read like animal entrails )

But in any case a version II (2), and a 11870 black lens.

Yes, thank you...that's what I meant, catalog number 11870. Is there any complete listing for this as well?

[adan]

You mean a list of all the catalog numbers (or the 5-letter codes that preceded them) - cross-referenced to the items in detail?

The Leica wiki has a lot, but subdivided by categories, so you have to hunt around a bit from section to section.

http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-wiki.en/index.php/Main_Page

For example:

http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-wiki.en/index.php/M_Lenses_x_Focal_Length

or

http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-wiki.en/index.php/E

Other than that, the only ones I know of are in collectors' reference books, and even then you have to have some idea of what you are looking for.

Although there is this: https://stephen-westin.com/misc/Leica_order_numbers.html

You might ask on the Historica/Collectors sub-Forum.

[jensthoes]

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...best for this information:

http://www.summilux.net/numeros/index.php?sid=7f0b5e7b2b517f9dd72e199be2b4741d

Best,

Jens

[a.noctilux]

2 hours ago, jensthoes said:

...best for this information:

http://www.summilux.net/numeros/index.php?sid=7f0b5e7b2b517f9dd72e199be2b4741d

Best,

Jens

Not really, I use this for very long, but infos are very sparse and very variable or incomplete.

as I've asked  years ago for my Summilux Ti coated 35mm :

we have in this only valable year of production and nothing more than that even the type is not "seen" !

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Entrez le numéro de série et indiquez si il concerne un boîtier ou un objectif.

 

 

Type de matériel :

Numéro de série :

 

L'objectif portant le numéro de série 3602424 est ? fabriqué en 1992

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[jensthoes]

….this website is fine for the age of cameras and lenses in the last century.

For newer stuff it is not complete.

Best,

Jens

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On 8/12/2021 at 3:23 PM, matt.tyler said:

Yes, thank you...that's what I meant, catalog number 11870. Is there any complete listing for this as well?

https://www.lindemanns.de/shop/fotobuchhandlung/64182l-hartmut-thiele--leitz-leitz-leica-bestellkatalog-1925-2012.php

Not complete and not without errors but the best we have. If this were online it could be searched much more conveniently.

The same author also has published an extensive list of lens production dates:

https://www.lindemanns.de/shop/fotobuchhandlung/64181l-leica--hartmut-thiele-grosses-fabrikationsbuch-leica-objektive.php

Edited August 13, 2021 by Studienkamera

[a.noctilux]

This is precious,

Tech Data - Erwin Puts (2002) Leica M-Lenses.pdf - pgs. 34 - 37