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Two 20x24 prints on wall, one from Q2 other from Q2M

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Richard K

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12 hours ago, Herr Barnack said:  

These two videos may help to address your questions in more depth:  https://yt.d0.cx/watch.php?v=FVWKacOLZy8

and -  https://yt.d0.cx/watch.php?v=ggY7vB07lO8

My outlook on the Q2 Monochrom is simple - if it is within your means, I say get yourself a Q2 Mono.  Based on my experience with the Q2 and M10Mono, I can't see any possible way you would regret doing so.  Making images with a dedicated black and white sensor that was designed from scratch to make only B&W images is a game changer.

 

I watched these videos. The second one especially addresses my original question posted. Many thanks Herr Barnack. I am now preparing my wife for this purchase...

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Ive looked very long and hard at the Q2 vs Q2M question about image conversion vs a true BW sensor. My conclusion is that if the owner is going to view on screen or via Instagram then stick with the Q2 and convert. If the intention is to print (big) OR the intention is to publish OR shooting for a magazine then for BW imagery only the M10M and Q2M is the option. The biggest single factor is certainly the high ISO quality.. BUT .. My biggest issue with QM2 at lower ISO is that its too clean and too 'fake'. Fixed that using Nik Effex Silver Effex Pro. Im now waiting for the QM2 to come through the door. 

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On 7/14/2021 at 12:22 AM, andybarton said:

I have much bigger prints than that size on my walls taken with a Nikon D700, with 12 Mp. The largest is 1500x1000mm.

No one has ever questioned the quality of the prints or even thought about the pixel count.

Enjoy your prints!

I still have my Nikon D700. The last time I used it was to photograph a Formula 1 race quite a number of years ago. Great camera and took excellent images with its 12 MP sensor.

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13 minutes ago, Chuck Albertson said:

I must confess that when I saw the shortened title for this thread on the main page, I thought it was the opening line of a joke: Two 20x24 prints on a wall. One said to the other, "You want to hang here for a while, or go somewhere else?"

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18 hours ago, Richard K said:

Thanks! Will watch tonight.

That video might contain the answer to your question in that he rented the cameras.  Rent a Q2M for a week and shoot it side by side with your Q2 and your Sony.  Make some prints.   See if not only the results  but the shooting experience is worth the change for you.   It may also answer the question of which camera to sell -- the Q2 or the Sony -- if you decide to get a Q2M.

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I think I will be a bit of a contrarian here, but I am also a professional printer and use the SL2, which shares a sensor with the Q2, so I think I will have some helpful input. I have also printed exhibitions for photographers using the M9 and M Mono, while I was an M9 user.

Bottom line, the mono only versions of the cameras have a bit higher resolution and a broader tonal range. Once the images are processed, however, I think there is often not much difference visible, though the mono cameras seem to give more ability to push the shadows, while being more sensitive to highlight clipping. So I would advise shooting to protect your highlights.

At 20x24, I suspect that if I printed files from both cameras at base ISO in normal lighting, I don't think anyone would be able to tell the difference. If you said 40x60 inches instead of 20x24, then the mono would have a better print close up. I would say the biggest reason to use the mono cameras is more process based. If you know that you only want to shoot B&W, they give you that in the viewfinder without needing to use raw + jpeg, and they give you a flexible file that can be pushed around a lot. If there is any chance that you might want to use color at some point, the color version is the way to go and will render prints that are just as nice in 98% of the scenarios. People give me sub-optimal files to print from all the time (some would say terrible), and in the end they turn out as good prints, as the first considerations are the image itself, the quality of the processing and the paper/printing tech choice. The biggest advantage to something like a mono camera is mental, which is not to say they have no advantages, only that a camera like the Q2 is already spectacularly good. Native resolution on a 300dpi printer is already around 18.5x28 inches, so anything smaller than that you are not going to see a resolution advantage anyway. Tonality is possible, but I think unless all your prints are very flat and need the absolute widest gradation, you are not going to see it by the time you print. If you are printing on matte, forget about it...

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The main reason I own the M10 Monochrom as well as the M10 and SL2 is for the mindset that an all b&w workflow provides, similar to my film days. I don’t waste time comparing prints of same scenes using multiple cameras.  All of these machines are fully adequate  for my shooting and printing needs.  As noted, results can vary based on my abilities; viewers don’t know or care what gear was used if the picture resonates.

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