Interesting Promotion – Leica M to L Special

[BernardC]

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17 hours ago, hamey said:

Back in the days when my beloved R system was still alive, Leica wouldn't allow any other manufacturer to make any lenses for the R system and if

My memory serves me right Leica took Sigma to court for trying to do it, some deal was agreed in court, now Sigma is part of the Leica alliance.

There were a few third-party lenses for the R system, Angenieux and Schneider for instance, as well as the Tamron Adaptall system. I think that the main reason why there weren't more is commercial. The R market was tiny, and most third-party lenses were of lower quality and cost. Can you imagine Vivitar building 10,000 units each of Nikon/Canon/Pentax, and a dozen R-mount versions? It makes absolutely no sense. Rollei, Alpa, Fuji, etc., were also skipped

Sigma (and others) did manufacture lenses that were sold under Leica's brand, so I doubt that the two companies were suing each other at the same time.

[hamey]

You also forgot to mention Minolta, so except for the Tampon adaptall ,the Angenieux, Schneder and Minolta lenses were all made for Leitz and were all sold under the Leitz banner.

As well as the hefty price tag.

If Tamron, Vivitar, Sigma etc  produce R lenses they would have been cheaper and independently sold and could have been bought in any photo store not just a Leica stockist.

It's a pity that Leitz. didn't encourage other manufactories to do so like Leica M Lenses in the case of Zeiss ZM and Voigtlander are still made independently and distributed in any photo store for Leica M.

Now to the Sigma case, we have quite a few lawyers on this forum, I am sure somebody knows. perhaps they could enlighten me on what did occur. 

Going back to the Leica Promotion,  all Camera brands are promoting something especially on mirrorless cameras and lenses., things are not to good as people are holding on to their  Wallets and not spending on luxary cameras during this covid virus.

Edited July 13, 2021 by hamey

[Photoworks]

now be honest ! how many Tamron , vivitar Voigtlander do you have?

if you buy a Leica Camera I prefer to have a quality lens. the few sigma lenses I got are ok, but there is always a little detail that disappoints .

It is good to have options, sometime ever sigma has a winner.

[hamey]

To be honest I have never owned a Tamron or Vivitar lens because they were never produced for my R cameras, but if they were available I might have.

I have only owned one Sigma lens and that was used on my Minolta XD-7 on which I gave away the lens  many years ago.

Now as for detail, my 35mmf2 asph M lens had an issue with it, lubricant protruding from the rear mount, oh yes MADE IN GERMANY

My brand new M240 had dirt in viewfinder, however my strap lugs didn't detach, so please don't start me on detail and Leica quality I have been using Leica since 1973.

 

Now back to the Leica Promotion,..... Dear Leica you need to sell the SL system for it to survive, so open it to all demographics with lower cost bodies, they don't need to built like Tanks, Digital cameras have only a short life, Just ask M9 users, by the way, I still cannot see any rust in my light Sensor on my M7, R7, R8, & R9.   (being Sarcastic)

Time for Walkies.

Edited July 14, 2021 by hamey

[beewee]

45 minutes ago, hamey said:

Dear Leica you need to sell the SL system for it to survive, so open it to all demographics with lower cost bodies, they don't need to built like Tanks, Digital cameras have only a short life

I think that was the whole point of the L-mount Alliance. You just described the Panasonic S5 and Sigma FP.

[BernardC]

11 hours ago, hamey said:

To be honest I have never owned a Tamron or Vivitar lens because they were never produced for my R cameras, but if they were available I might have.

Tamron was, they offered R-mount Adaptall adapters.

I had one Tamron zoom as a teenager in the 1980s. The zooming mechanism seized within a few weeks, so I brought it back to the dealer for a full refund. Obviously, we shouldn't judge the brand based on one faulty lens from 35 years ago.