Ecar Posted June 28, 2021 Share #21  Posted June 28, 2021 Advertisement (gone after registration) Left to right: MS-Optics Petz 57/2 and Vario-Prasma 50/1.5, Lomo Minitar 32/2.8 and Skink Pinhole. All in M mount. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 1 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/322140-artistic-and-crazy-lenses-show-us-your-shots/?do=findComment&comment=4227615'>More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted June 28, 2021 Posted June 28, 2021 Hi Ecar, Take a look here Artistic and crazy lenses - show us your shots. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
Q_lux Posted June 28, 2021 Share #22  Posted June 28, 2021 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/322140-artistic-and-crazy-lenses-show-us-your-shots/?do=findComment&comment=4227629'>More sharing options...
pgk Posted June 28, 2021 Share #23  Posted June 28, 2021 13 hours ago, 01maciel said: A lens around 160 yrs old and the image quality is amazing. What mount do they have and what sort of adapter are you going to use? That'll be interesting for further decisions re art lenses. These old brass lenses have a threaded flange which screwed onto the wooden camera which they screw into. Most have lost their flange. Mine is currently used on s Bellows M and held in place using the hood attachment. Rough and ready but it works. WhenI get home I’ll photograph it and post. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
01maciel Posted June 29, 2021 Author Share #24  Posted June 29, 2021 Am 28.6.2021 um 09:14 schrieb Q_lux: Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Camera? Lens? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaeger Posted June 29, 2021 Share #25 Â Posted June 29, 2021 Can artistic but not craziness? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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mikozia Posted July 1, 2021 Share #27  Posted July 1, 2021 Advertisement (gone after registration) @01maciel To answer your question. I liked the artistic part of the lens and the price.😉 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
01maciel Posted July 6, 2021 Author Share #28  Posted July 6, 2021 What a chunk! The Helios 40-2 1:1.5/85 - made in Russia by Zenit - is a lot more crazy than artistic. The size and weight might have an adverse impact on the regular usage. Perhaps. I just walked quickly through the garden to take some photos as it is too hot and muggy today to spend the afternoon out there. Who said there is no climate change? Anyway the photos of my new Helios look promising after these quick shots. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! M10 + Helios 40-2 1:1.5/85  3 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! M10 + Helios 40-2 1:1.5/85  ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/322140-artistic-and-crazy-lenses-show-us-your-shots/?do=findComment&comment=4232987'>More sharing options...
01maciel Posted July 6, 2021 Author Share #29  Posted July 6, 2021 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! M10 + Helios 40-2 1:1.5/85 3 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! M10 + Helios 40-2 1:1.5/85 ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/322140-artistic-and-crazy-lenses-show-us-your-shots/?do=findComment&comment=4232988'>More sharing options...
01maciel Posted July 6, 2021 Author Share #30  Posted July 6, 2021 vor 25 Minuten schrieb Steven: You've got my attention Thank you;) vor 25 Minuten schrieb Steven: do you have any portrait to share with it ? No, I'm sorry. I don't share any portrait of family or friends on the internet. vor 26 Minuten schrieb Steven: how is It stopped down? Haven't tried yet intensively but will do. I'm a wide open boy so it's a low priority task on my agenda. This is the only photos at f/4 I've got at the moment. Quite sharp in the middle and the rest tends to be softer. A decent quality but I'll use it for portrait and flower photography - and fun of course. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members!  Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members!  ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/322140-artistic-and-crazy-lenses-show-us-your-shots/?do=findComment&comment=4233222'>More sharing options...
pedaes Posted July 6, 2021 Share #31  Posted July 6, 2021 54 minutes ago, Steven said: You've got my attention Sorry, Steven, but can't resist mentioning this before you get too involved - they are not expensive lenses. 😉 Just jesting of course! Have fun! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ko.Fe. Posted July 6, 2021 Share #32  Posted July 6, 2021 (edited) On 6/26/2021 at 1:07 PM, 01maciel said: This is how a Petzval 85/f2.2 and M10 look like. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Another SLR F mount lens on rangefinder body.     Edited July 6, 2021 by Ko.Fe. 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
01maciel Posted July 7, 2021 Author Share #33  Posted July 7, 2021 OK, the photo in #31 was not shot at f/4. RTFM, that's what I did today. The Helios lens has a separate diagraphm setting ring. It needs to be adjusted when I change the aperture. Eeerghh, but why? I didn't do that in #31, so it is probably taken at around f/1.5. I know the effect of a diagraphm but what is the advantage to separate the diagraphm from the aperture ring? Is this the russian reverse logic? vor 20 Stunden schrieb Steven: A portrait of a statue would do ! Statues are rare in this region of the country as all of the political leaders and poster boys got a bad reputation when the wall came down;)  I shot this one at f/5.6 or f/8, cant remember exactly. The colours are a bit pale, the contrast is low but sharpness is OK imho. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 1 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/322140-artistic-and-crazy-lenses-show-us-your-shots/?do=findComment&comment=4233869'>More sharing options...
01maciel Posted July 7, 2021 Author Share #34  Posted July 7, 2021 Another one at f/1.5 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! M10 + Helios 40-2 1:1.5/85 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! M10 + Helios 40-2 1:1.5/85 ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/322140-artistic-and-crazy-lenses-show-us-your-shots/?do=findComment&comment=4233870'>More sharing options...
pippy Posted July 7, 2021 Share #35 Â Posted July 7, 2021 (edited) 4 hours ago, 01maciel said: ...I know the effect of a diagraphm but what is the advantage to separate the diagraphm from the aperture ring? Is this the russian reverse logic?... No. This practice dates back to an era before automatic-aperture-indexed TTL metering with cameras which utilised 'Stopped-down' metering. In the older system of TTL metering the aperture had to be closed - physically - for the TTL meter to give an accurate reading but, obviously, if the required aperture was, say, f22, it would be nigh-on impossible to focus the camera because (1) the v/f image would be too dark and (2) the depth-of-field would make accurate focussing difficult. So what happened was that metering was calculated by stopping-down the aperture at which point both the aperture-indicator-ring and diaphragm-rings were set to the correct position - say f8. The diaphragm-ring ONLY was then opened back up to max. aperture for focussing. Once focussed the ring was then turned, in a fraction of a second if need be - as far as it could go (in this case f8) to the pre-set aperture-mark. The aperture-ring, once set, acted as a back-stop beyond which point the diaphragm-ring could not travel and so the correct exposure had been achieved. Not elegantly explained as I cannot for the moment remember all the correct terminology from that far, distant age - so apologies! - but hopefully it makes some sort-of sense? Philip. EDIT : To try to put things in a visual context and one which members might be at least slightly familiar; think of a Nikon F with (say) an FTn metering prism. The 'full aperture indexing' lenses used by Nikon at this time had the 'Claw' screwed on to the top-rear of the lens barrel and the index-link-pin of the metering prism dropped into a central gap in this claw. Once the lens' maximum aperture was 'indexed' to the meter (by rotating the aperture-ring fully counter-clockwise then fully clockwise) the meter could then tell, solely by the position of the pin, at what aperture the lens was going to be used even although the diaphragm remained wide-open. This practise became known as 'Open-aperture Metering'. Progress! Using a 'Pre-Set' lens on a TTL Leica M neccessitates that the aperture / diaphragm ring(s) are closed together to avoid unfortunate mistakes.... Philip. Edited July 7, 2021 by pippy 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Geschlecht Posted July 7, 2021 Share #36  Posted July 7, 2021 (edited) Hello 01maciel & Philip, Perfectly elegantly explained. The second ring that stops the aperture from closing beyond a certain point that the 2 of you have been calling an "aperture-indicator-ring" is also sometimes referred to as a "preset ring". Preset rings were used before automatic diaphrams were used so that the photographer could set the correct aperture for the exposure on the pre-set ring with the actual diaphram fully open for focusing & viewing. Then, with the photo focused & composed, the photographer simply had to turn the actual diaphram adjustment ring until it stopped, to go to the correct aperture without looking. Best Regards, Michael Edited July 7, 2021 by Michael Geschlecht 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Geschlecht Posted July 7, 2021 Share #37  Posted July 7, 2021 (edited) Hello Again 01maciel & Philip, After the invention of automatic diaphram lenses, preset lenses were sometimes still manufactured for longer lenses because the sizes & distances involved between the diaphram & the camera body were so great that automatic diaphrams were impractical to make. For a variety of reasons. Interestingly, with the 400mm & 560mm Telyts: The earlier f5.6 lenses are presets & the more modern f6.8 versions are manual set. The 800mm f6.3 is a preset lens. Best Regards, Michael Edited July 7, 2021 by Michael Geschlecht 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
frame-it Posted July 7, 2021 Share #38  Posted July 7, 2021 SL2S + Helios-44M-4 58mm f/2 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 7 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/322140-artistic-and-crazy-lenses-show-us-your-shots/?do=findComment&comment=4234017'>More sharing options...
frame-it Posted July 7, 2021 Share #39  Posted July 7, 2021 SL2S + Helios-44M-4 58mm f/2 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 3 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/322140-artistic-and-crazy-lenses-show-us-your-shots/?do=findComment&comment=4234018'>More sharing options...
01maciel Posted July 10, 2021 Author Share #40  Posted July 10, 2021 This performance art is brought to you by M10 + New Petzval Art Lens 85/f2.2 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 2 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/322140-artistic-and-crazy-lenses-show-us-your-shots/?do=findComment&comment=4235710'>More sharing options...
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