Capuccino-Muffin Posted June 12, 2021 Share #241 Posted June 12, 2021 Advertisement (gone after registration) On 6/10/2021 at 3:41 PM, evikne said: There is one lens I simply cannot decide if love or hate, and that's the 50mm Summilux ASPH. I've owned it four times and sold it the same number of times. Now I desperately want one again! 😬 I thoroughly dislike the 50 Lux asph. If I had to use the term Milquetoast to describe a lens, it would be that lens. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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evikne Posted June 12, 2021 Share #242 Posted June 12, 2021 11 minutes ago, Capuccino-Muffin said: Why exactly? I don’t see why this shot wouldn’t have been made by a zeiss planar and what would in turn make the lens special... can you develop your explanation a bit more? If you don't value Mandler lenses, you will probably not understand why pictures like these are special to me. I was about to swap it for a modern lens with an "ordinary" look that I could achieve almost anywhere else. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capuccino-Muffin Posted June 12, 2021 Share #243 Posted June 12, 2021 2 minutes ago, evikne said: If you don't value Mandler lenses, you will probably not understand why pictures like these are special to me. I was about to swap it for a modern lens with an "ordinary" look that I could achieve almost anywhere else. I just find it so unnatural to see wide open shots in broad daylight. It looks forced. Sure it’s a style but way overdone. Like heavy metal, the guitar solo has to be parsimonious, it shouldn’t last the whole song! Guitar solos exist for a reason... Anyhow, do you have some shots done at f4/5.6? The mandler swag should be present at all f stops. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
evikne Posted June 12, 2021 Share #244 Posted June 12, 2021 8 minutes ago, Capuccino-Muffin said: I just find it so unnatural to see wide open shots in broad daylight. It looks forced. Sure it’s a style but way overdone. Like heavy metal, the guitar solo has to be parsimonious, it shouldn’t last the whole song! Guitar solos exist for a reason... Anyhow, do you have some shots done at f4/5.6? The mandler swag should be present at all f stops. I shoot at all apertures. Here is an example with the same lens at f/5.6. But I like to shoot wide open, and I don't intend to change it because someone else tells me so. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 12 2 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/321210-lenses-that-inspire-you-to-take-photos/?do=findComment&comment=4218924'>More sharing options...
ianman Posted June 12, 2021 Share #245 Posted June 12, 2021 (edited) 36 minutes ago, evikne said: If you don't value Mandler lenses, you will probably not understand why pictures like these are special to me. I was about to swap it for a modern lens with an "ordinary" look that I could achieve almost anywhere else. Could you write which lens you used and which is the modern one you almost swapped it for? The photo you posted looks strange to me, it’s almost solarised. Way too much contrast for my taste. Is that deliberate PP? edit: I meant the photo of the children. I saw the boat after posting and it looks much better. (Again, IMO) Edited June 12, 2021 by ianman Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
evikne Posted June 12, 2021 Share #246 Posted June 12, 2021 2 minutes ago, ianman said: Could you write which lens you used and which is the modern one you almost swapped it for? The photo you posted looks strange to me, it’s almost solarised. Way too much contrast for my taste. Is that deliberate PP? It's the 50mm Summilux pre-ASPH and I almost swapped it for the modern ASPH version. This was a hasty decision because I was a little tired of the extra editing I needed to make the pictures appear as I wanted (often some flare I had to get rid of). I've used a high contrast profile (RNI) because I like that look, and I think it suits this lens. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capuccino-Muffin Posted June 12, 2021 Share #247 Posted June 12, 2021 Advertisement (gone after registration) The boat looks good, looks normal. Wide open would be pointless on it and would render the image “a feeble attempt to be spectacular”. Someone will have to explain the “wide open in broad daylight” thing to me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
evikne Posted June 12, 2021 Share #248 Posted June 12, 2021 7 minutes ago, Capuccino-Muffin said: Someone will have to explain the “wide open in broad daylight” thing to me. I guess everyone has their own reasons, but to me, it's simply that I love the OOF rendering. I think all lenses look pretty similar when stopped down; their real characteristics are best shown in the OOF areas. I also love the contrast between sharp and unsharp. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianman Posted June 12, 2021 Share #249 Posted June 12, 2021 17 minutes ago, Capuccino-Muffin said: Someone will have to explain the “wide open in broad daylight” thing to me. I guess you are just having a go at people who like the look rather than asking a serious question. In case of the latter, they are plenty of photography for beginners tutorials on YouTube. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianman Posted June 12, 2021 Share #250 Posted June 12, 2021 32 minutes ago, evikne said: It's the 50mm Summilux pre-ASPH and I almost swapped it for the modern ASPH version. This was a hasty decision because I was a little tired of the extra editing I needed to make the pictures appear as I wanted (often some flare I had to get rid of). I've used a high contrast profile (RNI) because I like that look, and I think it suits this lens. I like the composition but the rendering, for me is way too harsh. Is this really “the Mandler look”? Would you mind posting the photo without the filter? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
evikne Posted June 12, 2021 Share #251 Posted June 12, 2021 10 minutes ago, ianman said: Would you mind posting the photo without the filter? With and without filter. The original file was (as usual) strongly affected by flare. The high-contrast filter also helps a lot in this regard. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 2 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/321210-lenses-that-inspire-you-to-take-photos/?do=findComment&comment=4218975'>More sharing options...
Capuccino-Muffin Posted June 12, 2021 Share #252 Posted June 12, 2021 25 minutes ago, ianman said: I guess you are just having a go at people who like the look rather than asking a serious question. In case of the latter, they are plenty of photography for beginners tutorials on YouTube. Shooting wide open is hardly a well seasoned photographer‘s tool, quite the opposite. Evikne’s explanation sounds more like his photography is about showing a lens’ nature as opposed to just using the thing to its full potential. I’m not sure that a lens’ full potential is limited to its wide open setting, quite the opposite. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capuccino-Muffin Posted June 12, 2021 Share #253 Posted June 12, 2021 9 minutes ago, evikne said: With and without filter. The original file was (as usual) strongly affected by flare. The high-contrast filter also helps a lot in this regard. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Back then, the original photo would have passed as a very poorly performing optical lens and they way around this would have been to close down a bit. But today, it seems that a few presets bring an regular image into works of art. It’s a fine souvenir/family moment. Its the added forced wow factor that’s bugging me. Welcome to the instagram era. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
evikne Posted June 12, 2021 Share #254 Posted June 12, 2021 16 minutes ago, Capuccino-Muffin said: Back then, the original photo would have passed as a very poorly performing optical lens and they way around this would have been to close down a bit. But today, it seems that a few presets bring an regular image into works of art. It’s a fine souvenir/family moment. Its the added forced wow factor that’s bugging me. Welcome to the instagram era. It was actually a forum member who encouraged me to do so a couple of years ago. Since then, I've been a little curious about HC B&W. But it's not easy to make everyone happy. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
evikne Posted June 12, 2021 Share #255 Posted June 12, 2021 (edited) Thank you, @Steven. This thread is not about post processing or photographic style. So it would be nice if we could go back to the original topic, which is lenses that inspire us. Edited June 12, 2021 by evikne 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffry Abt Posted June 12, 2021 Share #256 Posted June 12, 2021 5 hours ago, evikne said: A couple of hour ago I was out shooting with the lens I was just about to sell. I took this picture and many more like it. I don't know what I was thinking about, I will of course never sell it! That would have been my biggest mistake ever. Yes, do not sell the lens ! I have always regretted selling a Leica M lens. I wish I had every one of them back. Ultimately when I trace my thought processes, I find I was actually only trying to finance a new lens. GAS! 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 13, 2021 Share #257 Posted June 13, 2021 For pictures of people my voigtlander 40mm f1.4 nokton sc inspires me with crazy bokeh and glowing but essentially sharp at the point of focus effect wide open but also it just seems to sing for me at moderate apertures. Also my 28mm summaron remake which for me delivers lovely crisp medium contrast images and works very well shooting into the light creating a nice dreamy signature all of its own. I have found that i am not over keen on modern aspherical lenses for people photography although they can be more effective for certain types of landscape photography. I would not swap my nokton for the 35mm leica apo but respect people that love that type of lens,its just not for me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennis Posted June 13, 2021 Share #258 Posted June 13, 2021 20 hours ago, evikne said: With and without filter. The original file was (as usual) strongly affected by flare. The high-contrast filter also helps a lot in this regard. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! I think you made a great job "compensating" the color version. I mean the BW photo can't exist w/o the original in color. They help each other as a team 🙂 The BW is high contrasted but effective. Thumb up for me 👍 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
evikne Posted June 13, 2021 Share #259 Posted June 13, 2021 17 minutes ago, Dennis said: I think you made a great job "compensating" the color version. I mean the BW photo can't exist w/o the original in color. They help each other as a team 🙂 The BW is high contrasted but effective. Thumb up for me 👍 Thanks. I just wonder if the flare problem has become worse lately. All images with some backlight become like this. Last fall I stumbled in a river and splashed a lot of water on the lens. I can't see anything wrong either inside or outside, but I'm not sure if it could have been damaged in any way. I've found that contrasty B&W conversion, together with the dehaze tool is currently the best solution to this problem. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennis Posted June 13, 2021 Share #260 Posted June 13, 2021 2 minutes ago, evikne said: Thanks. I just wonder if the flare problem has become worse lately. All images with some backlight become like this. Last fall I stumbled in a river and splashed a lot of water on the lens. I can't see anything wrong either inside or outside, but I'm not sure if it could have been damaged in any way. I've found that contrasty B&W conversion, together with the dehaze tool is currently the best solution to this problem. or sell the lens 🤣 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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