M10 Body Size

[Jeff S]

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3 minutes ago, fotografr said:

I had not seen that thread previously. Thanks.

One would have thought, given the marketing emphasis on the slimmed down M10, that Leica would have been very careful and thoughtful about stating and comparing dimensions.  Instead, their own (initial) publications were the source of much of the internet confusion you experienced. 🤪

Jeff

[fotografr]

28 minutes ago, Jeff S said:

One would have thought, given the marketing emphasis on the slimmed down M10, that Leica would have been very careful and thoughtful about stating and comparing dimensions.  Instead, their own (initial) publications were the source of much of the internet confusion you experienced. 🤪

Jeff

True. It was the first thing mentioned by Leica when making the announcement.

[P1505]

Hold it, get excited, buy it.

Thats what will happen. Enjoy. 😀

[anickpick]

It's like the pxxxs. where do you start measuring?

[Michael Geschlecht]

Hello Everybody,

For perspective I measured a late M3.

Including the strap eyelets & the wind lever, anchoring pins on both sides on the base, lens mount, eyepiece & flash sockets in the back & the really nice to look at & very useful extended finder frames:

The camera measures 138 X 77 X 36

Just like it says in the user manual.

Best Regards,

Michael

Edited March 18, 2021 by Michael Geschlecht

[mujk]

M6TTL, M9 and M10. In the hand, the M9 definitely feels thicker than the other two.

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[Herr Barnack]

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On 3/18/2021 at 4:22 PM, anickpick said:

It's like the pxxxs. where do you start measuring?

For best results, start measuring at the coccyx.

[adan]

The trick is also - where, and including what, does one measure on a film M?

Viewfinder-eyepiece protrusion (which is about the same as the LCDs)? Rear ISO/film-type disk? Advance lever extended in shooting position as a thumb support (which, after all, is what the M10 thumb rest - or an aftermarket "Thumbie" - are supposed to emulate for feel)?

Heck, the M6TTL in mujk's image above has a rubber PC sync cap sticking out of the back.

Seems like the only really probative measurement would be displacement. Put each camera into a tank holding 1 litre of water, and see how much the water level rises.

Any volunteers?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Displacement_(fluid)

Edited April 1, 2021 by adan

[Anbaric]

Always remember to remove the battery when conducting water displacement tests of your Leica.

[mujk]

I don't think the results would be accurate, unless the cameras are first made fully waterproof. Otherwise there would be various amounts of water leaking into the body, causing measurement errors.

I did some thickness measurements and came of course to the conclusion that, depending on what you measure, you will most probably be able to prove any opinion of yours on the relative thickness of the three.

For example two measurements of the parts by which you hold the body with your right hand.

1. Top plate about where you could hold the body (next to the rangefinder window) without touching any protruding parts:

M6TTL 33,8 mm

M9 37,0 mm

M10 34,0 mm

-> M6 and M10 equally slim

2. Lower part of body where the base of your right thumb touches the back and some fingers touch the front, including any protruding parts you have to touch to get a good grip.

M6TTL 36,0 mm (back plate door and front battery cover included)

M9 41,4 mm (command dial and 4-way controller included)

M10 32,7 mm (no protruding parts on the front or back)

-> M10 slimmest of the three!

Measuring some other parts would produce different results.

[Michael Geschlecht]

4 hours ago, adan said:

The trick is also - where, and including what, does one measure on a film M?

Viewfinder-eyepiece protrusion (which is about the same as the LCDs)? Rear ISO/film-type disk? Advance lever extended in shooting position as a thumb support (which, after all, is what the M10 thumb rest - or an aftermarket "Thumbie" - are supposed to emulate for feel)?

Heck, the M6TTL in mujk's image above has a rubber PC sync cap sticking out of the back.

Seems like the only really probative measurement would be displacement. Put each camera into a tank holding 1 litre of water, and see how much the water level rises.

Any volunteers?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Displacement_(fluid)

 

On 3/18/2021 at 7:54 PM, Michael Geschlecht said:

Hello Everybody,

For perspective I measured a late M3.

Including the strap eyelets & the wind lever, anchoring pins on both sides on the base, lens mount, eyepiece & flash sockets in the back & the really nice to look at & very useful extended finder frames:

The camera measures 138 X 77 X 36

Just like it says in the user manual.

Best Regards,

Michael

Hello Andy,

If you look at my Post #25 above regarding M3 measurements, I took that kind of stuff into consideration.

Best Regards,

Michael

[newtoleica]

On 3/16/2021 at 9:39 AM, jaapv said:

Yes, but the M10 was designed to have the sensor much closer to the camera back than any other digital camera by moving the motherboard to the side. That is the main reason that it is thinner; the sensor is (nearly) in the same position as film was.

You can see the unique folded motherboard at the lower righthand side.

Only: the LCD sticks out a couple of mm-s

 

 

 

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The LCD - yes one of the reasons I have an M10-D. Its just so much nicer to hold.