chris_tribble Posted March 24, 2021 Author Share #41 Posted March 24, 2021 (edited) Advertisement (gone after registration) Well having just had two days in London (the first time in over a year!), and taking only an M10 and 35 Summicron Asph mkI, I experienced a real sense of liberation after some months using the SL2 and the 24-90 foot landscape in Cumbria. It felt like exactly the right tool for the setting and was rock solid in terms of results. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! There’s a Flickr album from the visit here: https://flic.kr/s/aHsmV29pdK Neither the lens nor the body felt as if they’d reached the end of their useful lives! Edited March 24, 2021 by chris_tribble 4 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! There’s a Flickr album from the visit here: https://flic.kr/s/aHsmV29pdK Neither the lens nor the body felt as if they’d reached the end of their useful lives! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/318866-living-with-obsolete-hardware/?do=findComment&comment=4167232'>More sharing options...
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Lee S Posted March 24, 2021 Share #42 Posted March 24, 2021 +40MP camera been there done that not needed for 99% of us. Only big or slower glass can resolve it then you never even see the difference even on your 4K monitor unless cropped in 1 to 1. I'm happy with 24MP and either IBIS or better low light performance. The M10 is far from obsolete and neither is any lens. + 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Printmaker Posted March 25, 2021 Share #43 Posted March 25, 2021 On 3/18/2021 at 6:21 AM, 250swb said: Chris, as an antidote to GAS and needing an M10R or an Apo whatever have you tried the 'Super Resolution' feature in the new ACR? It doubles image resolution. No really. Control+Shift+D or down the right hand side of the screen find the three little dots that open a new menu and go to 'Enhance'. I have played with this feature with some success. I've also played with the super resolution technique described on Mathphotographer's Youtube channel. It is a bit more work but his technique produces better results. Between both, I've probably saved over $30,000. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_tribble Posted March 25, 2021 Author Share #44 Posted March 25, 2021 (edited) Interesting - I've had a play with this with a recent image (with my obsolete hardware...). Original full frame followed by 100% crop and then 100% crop of the enhanced image. Looking at the images, I have the following thoughts: 1. I'm very impressed by how well my old 35 summicron asp holds up - the detail and contrast in the crop are pretty good for a hand-held grab shop (the intention had been to crop into the lion and unicorn on the tower) 2. Using the Enhance feature in LR Classici, there is a tiny amount of additional detail in the enhanced image - but it's not that impressive... 3. Using the Super Resolution feature in ACR (which you can jump to from LR - a good guide here: https://lightroomkillertips.com/how-to-take-advantage-of-super-resolution-from-lightroom-classic/#:~:text=Super Resolution is an evolution,as does the horizontal resolution).) there's an astonishing increase in resolution and detailed. I'm impressed. Obviously I wouldn't be printing at this level of detail, but it's clear that the Super Resolution enhanced image would hold up very well for a very large print. Should the need arise, I'd be happy to use this for the occassional job. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Of course - there's an overhead! No free lunches 🙂 Edited March 25, 2021 by chris_tribble 2 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Of course - there's an overhead! No free lunches 🙂 ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/318866-living-with-obsolete-hardware/?do=findComment&comment=4167480'>More sharing options...
UliWer Posted March 25, 2021 Share #45 Posted March 25, 2021 Thank you for the link, which enabled me to have a first try with the "enhance" function. I have always problems to compare pictures with completely different enlargements. Therefore I'd like to present the results which have the same enlargement from a small section of the "normal" and the "enhanced" version of a photo. First as reference the complete photo from the M10 (the DNG has 30.4 MP) - unenhanced: Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Now a small section from the lower center; normal version not enhanced: Now approx. the same section enhanced (the complete enhanced DNG has 356 MP... 😞 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Now a small section from the lower center; normal version not enhanced: Now approx. the same section enhanced (the complete enhanced DNG has 356 MP... 😞 ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/318866-living-with-obsolete-hardware/?do=findComment&comment=4167922'>More sharing options...
UliWer Posted March 25, 2021 Share #46 Posted March 25, 2021 (edited) So I stand corrected. In #40 I was sure that the "artificial enhancement" couldn't reveal more details and sharpness than the "original" and only would lead to more artifacts. Now I see that the "enhanced" version shows considerably more sharpness. There are artifacts - but they are as well on the unenhanced "original", e.g. the "rainbow" pattern in the writing "Hamburg" on the white boat, similar patterns on metal structures). Edited March 25, 2021 by UliWer Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Printmaker Posted March 26, 2021 Share #47 Posted March 26, 2021 Advertisement (gone after registration) I shot this earlier today. M10 with a 50 Summicron (non-APO) and used ACR Enhance. I can see a lot more detail in the full size file but only a small improvement in this JPEG. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/318866-living-with-obsolete-hardware/?do=findComment&comment=4167999'>More sharing options...
Printmaker Posted March 26, 2021 Share #48 Posted March 26, 2021 Same info cropped detail. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/318866-living-with-obsolete-hardware/?do=findComment&comment=4168001'>More sharing options...
Printmaker Posted March 26, 2021 Share #49 Posted March 26, 2021 This is the full capture - M10/50 enhanced in ACR. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 1 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/318866-living-with-obsolete-hardware/?do=findComment&comment=4168003'>More sharing options...
chris_tribble Posted March 26, 2021 Author Share #50 Posted March 26, 2021 It’s an interesting resource. Not every day use, but it will have its uses. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andybarton Posted March 26, 2021 Share #51 Posted March 26, 2021 13 hours ago, UliWer said: There are artifacts - but they are as well on the unenhanced "original", e.g. the "rainbow" pattern in the writing "Hamburg" on the white boat It looks to me as if it's painted that way on the boat. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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