Everywhere zooms - 24-105/4 versus 24-70/2.8

[SonomaBear]

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I kept the Pan 24-105/4 lens when I sold the S1.  SL is the only way for me. Five M lenses, Canon adapter for old lenses, and buying Sigmas. BTW the SIG 85/2.4 is the finest portrait lens I’ve owned (but I’ll keep my ‘Cron M 90)

I do not like the Pan zoom. I’m considering replacing it with Sigma 24-70/2.8. 
Your thoughts?

[Ivar B]

The 24-105 is not a "Pana Pro" lens so called certified by Leica, but still it is a good lens. Probably the Sigma 24-70 is a better lens optically and faster, but maybe the Panasonic is more versatile with 105 mm, but this is up to you. There is also a Panasonic Pro 24-70, but I don`t think it offers more than the Sigma and it is more expensive.

Have you considered the Leica 24-90?  I am very happy with mine and prices have come down a lot on the used market. 

[FrankX]

The Sigma 24-70 is a fantastic lens (especially considering the price), but so far I almost don't use it. Thinking about selling... The only bad points with this lens are size and weight.Thus, from my point of view 24-70 2.8 lenses are very versatile professional tools, but not what I would call an 'everywhere zoom'. However, that's maybe just me... I prefer primes anyway.

@Ivar B: The Leica 24-90 is a really fantastic lens from what I've seen so far, but it is even bigger. May I ask you, what's your bag for using this setup (SL/24-90) as a walk-around solution? 

[jrp]

The only thing bulkier than the 24-90 is a set of primes covering the range.  But it is surprisingly good (as it should be for the price).

[Ivar B]

15 hours ago, FrankX said:

The Sigma 24-70 is a fantastic lens (especially considering the price), but so far I almost don't use it. Thinking about selling... The only bad points with this lens are size and weight.Thus, from my point of view 24-70 2.8 lenses are very versatile professional tools, but not what I would call an 'everywhere zoom'. However, that's maybe just me... I prefer primes anyway.

@Ivar B: The Leica 24-90 is a really fantastic lens from what I've seen so far, but it is even bigger. May I ask you, what's your bag for using this setup (SL/24-90) as a walk-around solution? 

I use an Oberwerth bag. They had one specially made for the Leica SL and it also carries the 90-280.

The SL Large camera bag made of leather (oberwerth.com)

If you only have the 24-90 you don`t need that large a bag, but Oberwerth bags are excellent and they have other sizes as well. I think there is (or was) a Leica - Oberwerth promo with some discounts available. 

[Mick H]

On 1/24/2021 at 5:38 AM, Ivar B said:

The 24-105 is not a "Pana Pro" lens so called certified by Leica, but still it is a good lens. Probably the Sigma 24-70 is a better lens optically and faster, but maybe the Panasonic is more versatile with 105 mm, but this is up to you. There is also a Panasonic Pro 24-70, but I don`t think it offers more than the Sigma and it is more expensive.

Have you considered the Leica 24-90?  I am very happy with mine and prices have come down a lot on the used market. 

I second the SL 24-90.  It's a core lens that does not disappoint.  

[Ivar B]

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I owned the Panasonic 24-105 for a short while. It came with a slightly used S1R body, but as I already owned the Leica 24-90, I sold the Pana lens.

Unless I am completely mistaken, I believe this is the only time I have seen the "Dual" image stabilization in the viewfinder. The Leica 24-90 is of course stabilized, but it may appear that you need an original Panasonic lens to obtain "dual" stabilization - or am I mistaken?

[Mick H]

13 minutes ago, Ivar B said:

Unless I am completely mistaken, I believe this is the only time I have seen the "Dual" image stabilization in the viewfinder. The Leica 24-90 is of course stabilized, but it may appear that you need an original Panasonic lens to obtain "dual" stabilization - or am I mistaken?

The S1H allows the SL24-90 to be used with IBIS or the lens OIS.  One or the other can be selected.  Dual IS is not an option for non-manufacturer lenses per the manual.  

[Mick H]

Obviously, OIS is useful in a body without IBIS like the SL (handheld video, photos with slower shutter speeds).  Dual IS is best but I don't have a Panasonic OIS lens to exploit that on my S1H.  I would consider stabilization options when acquiring a 24-70 type zoom to expand its usefulness.