neekon Posted July 21, 2020 Share #1 Posted July 21, 2020 Advertisement (gone after registration) I just got the S007 and 70mm lens. I am loving the combo, truly an amazing camera. I am wanting to get a wide angle lens. I am usually primarily a 28S Shooter, but mostly because there isn't a 24mm Summicron-M. I am curious how the 30mm and 35mm S lenses compare? would mostly do landscape and architecture work with the occasional portrait or astro shot. I am also curious how prominent the AF motor issue is and should I only get lenses that have had the replacement already done or not? Thank you Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Stuart Richardson Posted July 21, 2020 Share #2 Posted July 21, 2020 I only have the 35mm, so I cannot compare the two, but I would say that in general with the S system all the lenses are good, and it is more important to get the focal length you need, rather than one being so much better or worse than the others, with the exception of the 30-90 zoom, 120 TS and 100mm Summicron, which are all a bit different from the rest of the line. Regarding the AF motor, the failure is pretty prominent. Only buy a lens without the AF gear if you are willing to part with the time and money for the replacement. I can't recall the replacement cost, but I believe it might be around 250 euros, not including tax and shipping etc. Your 007 focuses faster than the 006 and S2, so it is more likely to cause problems with the vulnerable lenses. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
neekon Posted July 21, 2020 Author Share #3 Posted July 21, 2020 hey, Thank you. I think I will lean toward the 35mm, just because the ones im seeing all have the AF motor replacement, and the 30mm doesn't. I was debating the 30-90, but prefer primes with the system. Good to know, the only other lens I have is the 70, which will likely have to get the motor replacement at some point. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
John McMaster Posted July 21, 2020 Share #4 Posted July 21, 2020 35mm (or 45mm) is a better match if expecting to get the 24mm - which you will 😉 john Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
neekon Posted July 21, 2020 Author Share #5 Posted July 21, 2020 haha yea it feels like this system will eat all my money. I love the images from the 70, I cant imagine how the wider lenses will look Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
djmay Posted July 21, 2020 Share #6 Posted July 21, 2020 Or go directly to the 24. I bought the 30 and loved it. After I got the 24 I hardly used the 30. The 24 is my most-used lens; I have 24, 30, 70, 120, 180 and a Pentax 300. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
neekon Posted July 21, 2020 Author Share #7 Posted July 21, 2020 Advertisement (gone after registration) I thought about doing that. however I am leaning heavily toward getting the 35 now, and then down the line the 24 so I will have the 24, 35, 70. I feel the 35 gives me a more versatile lens for every day Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mgrayson3 Posted July 21, 2020 Share #8 Posted July 21, 2020 The 30 is the only S lens I never bought. I don't care for that FoV, and the 24 is such a brilliant lens that the 24, 35, 70, 120 quartet, or just 24, 70, 120 are my goto collections. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
John McMaster Posted July 21, 2020 Share #9 Posted July 21, 2020 You will need the 120 as well.... john 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
neekon Posted July 21, 2020 Author Share #10 Posted July 21, 2020 good to know. I think the 120 would likely be the last purchase, as I don know how much I would use it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ropo54 Posted July 21, 2020 Share #11 Posted July 21, 2020 If you are so inclined for the S 35mm, there's one for sale on Fred Miranda Buy/Sell. Regards, Rob FS- Leica S Summarit-S 35mm f-2.5 with Updated AF Motor - FM Forums.webloc Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
neekon Posted July 21, 2020 Author Share #12 Posted July 21, 2020 2 minutes ago, ropo54 said: If you are so inclined for the S 35mm, there's one for sale on Fred Miranda Buy/Sell. Regards, Rob FS- Leica S Summarit-S 35mm f-2.5 with Updated AF Motor - FM Forums.webloc 101 B · 1 download Much appreciated. I have a lead on a local one that an acquaintance is selling, although I will keep that in mind. thank you 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BernardC Posted July 21, 2020 Share #13 Posted July 21, 2020 5 hours ago, neekon said: I am curious how the 30mm and 35mm S lenses compare? I had the same question a few years back. Their published MTF is almost identical, as are their size and price. For me the key difference was that the 35 has a bit less distortion, so I went with that one. I remember reading that they were designed at the same time, and have similar optical formulas, so their "look" is very similar. You can't go wrong with either lens, provided they are in good condition, and you are aware of their AF motor status. You can save quite a bit of money on a lens that hasn't had its motor replaced, but it will cost you time and aggravation down the road (and hopefully less money than you saved up-front). Leica should be able to confirm the warranty and motor status of a potential purchase. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterv Posted July 21, 2020 Share #14 Posted July 21, 2020 Just for price reference, LSB have a secondhand 35mm in stock. From me another vote for the 24mm, which I have, together with the 70mm CS and 120mm CS. I completely agree with Stuart's assessment of the lens line, I would love to try out the Summicron myself. If you like the angle of a 28mm in 35 mill terms, if I were you, I would certainly go for the 35mm S first. In the meantime, don't forget to enjoy your 70mm, it is a great lens, I had it with me as my only lens when I went to Berlin for two weeks and I didn't regret for a moment having only one lens with me, everything just seemed to fit nicely in the normal perspective of the 70mm. The lens is ultra sharp and some say it's not so good for landscape because of field curvature but for every scene with a clear subject matter within 15 meters, wide open - or any other aperture for that matter - the images it produces certainly look very pleasant to my eyes. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom0511 Posted July 21, 2020 Share #15 Posted July 21, 2020 35mm is a little smaller and lighter. Also ask yourself how many lenses do you want to carry? I usually do not like to carry more than 2 for longer time/hikes. Thats the reason why my 24 and 35 often stay at home and I bring the 30 instead, together with a longer lens like 70 for example. For my taste 35 is better for people in environment and street, and 30 better for ladndscape and architecture. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
neekon Posted July 21, 2020 Author Share #16 Posted July 21, 2020 Thank you all for the wonderful responses. It was very good to read and very informative. I ended up going with a 35mm from a local photographer/acquaintance. he was selling it, and has had the motor replacement. I am very excited to have a 35/70 pairing. Understand completely about the size and weight. I would likely hike with the S and one lens, and my M10R and another lens, so I would likely choose complimenting focal lengths for that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
John McMaster Posted July 22, 2020 Share #17 Posted July 22, 2020 I will be curious to see how long you carry both cameras, the M(240) is my most recent M but it cannot compare to the results I get from my S(007).... john Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
helged Posted July 22, 2020 Share #18 Posted July 22, 2020 4 minutes ago, John McMaster said: I will be curious to see how long you carry both cameras, the M(240) is my most recent M but it cannot compare to the results I get from my S(007).... john +1. Despite sharing the same sensor, as is the case for M10-R and S3. Interesting, albeit not fully surprising - the end result (=raw file) depends on all factors involved; sensor + sensor size + in-body processing + lenses, etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted July 22, 2020 Share #19 Posted July 22, 2020 7 hours ago, helged said: ... the end result (=raw file) depends on all factors involved; sensor + sensor size + in-body processing + lenses, etc. Indeed, including what’s bonded to the sensor... cover glass(es), etc. The same sensor architecture (cut from the same wafer) can end up with Bayer array, or none (Monochrom), or even Fuji X-Trans, as Sony has shown with multi-company sales partnerships. Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom0511 Posted July 22, 2020 Share #20 Posted July 22, 2020 vor 22 Stunden schrieb neekon: Thank you all for the wonderful responses. It was very good to read and very informative. I ended up going with a 35mm from a local photographer/acquaintance. he was selling it, and has had the motor replacement. I am very excited to have a 35/70 pairing. Understand completely about the size and weight. I would likely hike with the S and one lens, and my M10R and another lens, so I would likely choose complimenting focal lengths for that. 70 and 35 were my first two lenses when the S2 appeared and I think it is a very good combo. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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