sdai Posted September 14, 2007 Share #301 Posted September 14, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) There seems to be enough talk about the dream camera already, what about lenses, folks? Seriously, which lens do you want to see an upgrade with AF first (if the R10 really adopts AF)? My vote goes to the 80/1.4 or a 85/1.4 ... an AF 70-180/2.8 would also be really nice and extremely useful of course. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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cmogi10 Posted September 14, 2007 Share #302 Posted September 14, 2007 Won't be any autofocus. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
berndr Posted September 14, 2007 Share #303 Posted September 14, 2007 Hello, when there will be a AF R body. I hope they will sell there lenses still in an MF version. But I think we will only get new lenses in the AF version. This means for me I have to look only at the second hand market because I will prefer the classical leica mechanical lens constructions. Bad luck for me because there is no existing 2/135 APO! Kind regards, Bernd. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mgcd Posted September 14, 2007 Share #304 Posted September 14, 2007 There seems to be enough talk about the dream camera already, what about lenses, folks? Seriously, which lens do you want to see an upgrade with AF first (if the R10 really adopts AF)? My vote goes to the 80/1.4 or a 85/1.4 ... an AF 70-180/2.8 would also be really nice and extremely useful of course. At the risk of irritating some folks here, none. I think Guy has the right track when he speculates on the possibility of some new AF zoom lenses. IF the possility of AF exists then the likelyhood of it showing up would most likely be in that area. I would not buy or use any of those though, preferring to stick to traditional R lenses. Cheers, Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hankg Posted September 14, 2007 Share #305 Posted September 14, 2007 There seems to be enough talk about the dream camera already, what about lenses, folks? Seriously, which lens do you want to see an upgrade with AF first (if the R10 really adopts AF)? My vote goes to the 80/1.4 or a 85/1.4 ... an AF 70-180/2.8 would also be really nice and extremely useful of course. How about a narrower range faster really high quality zoom. Like a 60-80 and a 28-48 / f2. Maybe making the range narrower and or making it a stepped zoom would make a faster zoom of very high quality feasible. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulmoore Posted September 14, 2007 Share #306 Posted September 14, 2007 make mine a af 20-45 f2 zoom and af 60-120 f2 macro zoom Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest GuyMancusoPhoto Posted September 14, 2007 Share #307 Posted September 14, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) At the risk of irritating some folks here, none. I think Guy has the right track when he speculates on the possibility of some new AF zoom lenses. IF the possility of AF exists then the likelyhood of it showing up would most likely be in that area. I would not buy or use any of those though, preferring to stick to traditional R lenses. Cheers, Frankly I think it is a given we will see some AF zoom lenses but still be backwards compatible to the R line . Just like the M line, leica will NOT put there history aside for technology sake. I'm still betting on a FF, 18 mpx, Kodak CCD, non AA filter body with the same simplicity as the R9/Dmr combo with a size of around the 5D maybe a touch bigger and certainly built Leica style like a tank. I think there will be very few bells and whistles but real practical stuff that makes real shooters sense. they learned a lot from the DMR and M8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmb_ Posted September 15, 2007 Share #308 Posted September 15, 2007 and Please keep the mirror lock up switch (mirror pre-release lever in Leica lingo) manual like on the R9. I like not having to go into a menu for this. Same with exposure compensation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
psquared Posted September 15, 2007 Share #309 Posted September 15, 2007 and Please keep the mirror lock up switch (mirror pre-release lever in Leica lingo) manual like on the R9. I like not having to go into a menu for this. Same with exposure compensation. I agree that having separate mechanisms outside of the menu system is best for the mirror pre-fire and exposure compensation functions. However, if I had my druthers, I would want the exposure compensation switch on the right hand side where I can reach it with my right thumb. I don't like having to take the left hand off the lens (or the right hand off the camera) and the eye off the viewfinder to adjust the exposure compensation as it stands. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
carstenw Posted September 15, 2007 Share #310 Posted September 15, 2007 My experience with various 90s and the 80 Lux makes me believe that the latter is very close to perfection. Leica, please leave that lens alone. If someone wants something sharper, the Apo-90 is the lens for you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thrid Posted September 15, 2007 Share #311 Posted September 15, 2007 How about a narrower range faster really high quality zoom. Like a 60-80 and a 28-48 / f2. Maybe making the range narrower and or making it a stepped zoom would make a faster zoom of very high quality feasible. That's a good idea. Arriflex / Zeiss makes a range of these for movie production. They are called variable primes and are stellar performers, because they only have to cover a small range. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thrid Posted September 15, 2007 Share #312 Posted September 15, 2007 At the risk of irritating some folks here, none. I think Guy has the right track when he speculates on the possibility of some new AF zoom lenses. IF the possility of AF exists then the likelyhood of it showing up would most likely be in that area. I would not buy or use any of those though, preferring to stick to traditional R lenses. Cheers, I also feel that there is a good chance that AF is in the cards... Leica has gotten some experience with making zooms for 4/3rds and Panasonic. But I foresee backward compatibility with MF lenses, like Nikon has managed to do. That's what I really like about Nikon. I can put the latest AF Nikkor on my F3 or a vintage scalloped manual focus lens from the 1960's. Just like Leica (just not as sharp). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrc Posted September 15, 2007 Share #313 Posted September 15, 2007 I like the idea of a short zoom -- a lot. I've got a Nikon 12-24 f1.4 (18-36 FF equivalent) and it's a great lens, and not all that big for a DSLR lens, either. I don't know if it would be legally possible to do this, but one thing that would be pretty interesting in a new R10 would be complete compatibility with the Nikon flash system. You can use the Nikon SB800 on an M8 in manual mode, but if Leica could figure out a non-patented-protected way to take this up a couple of notches, and let R users "discover" this enhanced compatibility, that'd be terrific. Nikon IMHO has the best flash system around, and since it really wouldn't compete with anything that Leica does, it'd only be a strength for the system. Stephen Lee's quote when asked about it: "Gee, that's a surprise," the Leica CEO said, scratching his head. JC Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted September 16, 2007 Share #314 Posted September 16, 2007 That's a good idea. Arriflex / Zeiss makes a range of these for movie production. They are called variable primes and are stellar performers, because they only have to cover a small range. At about $40-50,000 each, you would be disappointed if they were not stellar performers. Wilson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmb_ Posted September 16, 2007 Share #315 Posted September 16, 2007 Steven K. Lee, LFI, 4/2007 (May/June): " The R is a manual focus camera, so we've got to do something about that. The R of today is a big camera with an add-on digital back. We've got to do something about that too!" Seems like the direction Leica will take will bring us an R10 that will incorporate AF in some manner. It will not be only a manual focus camera and it will not be the size of a cinder block. We shall see. I also think Leica will introduce an R lens (or lenses) at a lower price point with the release of the new camera, as they did with the 28mm Elmarit 2.8 when the M8 was released and the subsequent Summarit-M's. Lee had also indicated in the LFI article that there would be lenses at different prices. 23.09-28.09.2008, Cologne, Germany Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdai Posted September 16, 2007 Share #316 Posted September 16, 2007 At the risk of irritating some folks here, none. I think Guy has the right track when he speculates on the possibility of some new AF zoom lenses. IF the possility of AF exists then the likelyhood of it showing up would most likely be in that area. I would not buy or use any of those though, preferring to stick to traditional R lenses. You're not irritating me at all, Conrad ... I'm not surprised at all that many long time Leica R enthusiasts have already had a arsenal of decent glass, and many existing models have reached the pinnacle of optical design and sees really no need nor much room for improvement, it's just from a gearhead's perspective, nothing will stop me from trying something NEW. LOL Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdai Posted September 16, 2007 Share #317 Posted September 16, 2007 How about a narrower range faster really high quality zoom. Like a 60-80 and a 28-48 / f2. Maybe making the range narrower and or making it a stepped zoom would make a faster zoom of very high quality feasible. That's a pretty cool idea, Hank ... some quick examples came to mind instantly, the Contax 45-90 and HC 55-110 are all decent performers very comparable to the primers in the same range. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdai Posted September 16, 2007 Share #318 Posted September 16, 2007 Leica, please leave that lens alone. If someone wants something sharper, the Apo-90 is the lens for you. Are you suggesting Leica to drop the focal length at f/1.4 in any future development? the chance would very slim IMHO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted September 16, 2007 Share #319 Posted September 16, 2007 That's a pretty cool idea, Hank ... some quick examples came to mind instantly, the Contax 45-90 and HC 55-110 are all decent performers very comparable to the primers in the same range. But these are both MF lenses and the narrow range is to some extent imposed upon them by the large image circle and the impossible size of the lens if they had gone for a wider range zoom. I would look instead for a lens with the same range as another of Zeiss' zoom masterpieces, the 24-85 N Vario Sonnar. Why, it even had AF without appearing to compromise its quality. If Leica could produce a DSLR R10 with a "kit" lens as good as that, I would be in the queue to my bank manager's office looking for the money to buy the kit. Wilson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
carstenw Posted September 16, 2007 Share #320 Posted September 16, 2007 Are you suggesting Leica to drop the focal length at f/1.4 in any future development? the chance would very slim IMHO. No, I am suggesting that they keep the 80 Lux as is. That is probably my favorite lens of all time. I regret selling it, although I had no camera to use it on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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