budrichard Posted August 11, 2006 Share #1 Posted August 11, 2006 Advertisement (gone after registration) I have the 35mm 1.4 Summilux Aspherical APO and 90mm Summicron Aspherical APO. Would like a 75mm 1.4 but the only Aspherical APO is the Summicron 2.0. Is there any conjecture available that Leica will round out the 75mm lens series by bringing out a 75mm 1.4 Summilux Aspherical APO? This seems to be hole left to be filled. -Dick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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wizard Posted August 11, 2006 Share #2 Posted August 11, 2006 This seems to be hole left to be filled. -Dick Well, maybe, but it would appear that Leica has to fill much bigger holes first right now, so don't expect a 1.4/75 AA anytime soon. After all, they just released the 2/75 AA, which is such a fantastic lens that whoever wants to use a 75mm lens should stop dreaming, as it will not get any better than this for the foreseeable future. Cheers, Andy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
marknorton Posted August 11, 2006 Share #3 Posted August 11, 2006 You're mixing up your APO's and your ASPH's. The only APO M lenses are the 75mm and 90mm Summicrons and the 135mm Telyt. So the 35mm Summilux is not an APO lens but it is an ASPH lens. The 75mm Summilux is neither APO nor ASPH so yes there is a hole there, it's a relatively old design. Whether there's a business case to refine the lens is another matter, it ranks right up there with the Noctilux in price terms. Their attention has been focussed at the other end of the focal length spectrum, so it will be interesting to see what the line-up looks like after Photokina. As Andy says, the Summicron is a great lens and, personally, I would rather see faster lenses further down, like a 28mm Summilux or 21mm Summicron. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest leica_mage Posted August 11, 2006 Share #4 Posted August 11, 2006 If, however, you are talking about ASPH, then, yes, the 35 Summilux and 75 Summicron both use ASPH lenses, as do most of the other lenses. virtually all the other lenses. In fact, only the Mark, are you still alive? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
modschiedler Posted August 11, 2006 Share #5 Posted August 11, 2006 Hi Richard, I’m pretty sure the only APO you have is the 90 mm ;-) I can’t imagine Leica will invest into the development of a new 75 mm f/1.4. Too much trouble with f/1.4. And the result would be quite a huge one. Give the 75 mm f/2 a chance – it's an excellent lens, and it's very compact as well (and the shortest "Apo Asph" FL in the Leica lens range) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
grober Posted August 11, 2006 Share #6 Posted August 11, 2006 75 'Lux is an older design made before advances in computer design techniology made the much never 75 'Cron possible. The 75mm Summilux will always be a valuable and unique lens but I doubt it'll get an update with any extra letters tacked onto its title. Leica is now pouring all its meager resources into its digital future . . . let's all hope it's not too late! -g Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
budrichard Posted August 11, 2006 Author Share #7 Posted August 11, 2006 Advertisement (gone after registration) Mea culpa, mea culpa. Anyway, I agree that after introducing the 75mm 2.0 AA, a 75mm 1.4 AA will not be in the cards for awhile. Looks like its a 75mm 2.0AA for me. -Dick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
philipotto Posted August 11, 2006 Share #8 Posted August 11, 2006 What does APO mean? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest leica_mage Posted August 11, 2006 Share #9 Posted August 11, 2006 What does APO mean? It is short for 'apochromatic correction' - no softening through different colour wavelengths being diffracted differently. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rosuna Posted August 11, 2006 Share #10 Posted August 11, 2006 it ranks right up there with the Noctilux in price terms. They are old designs. The same for the Summicron 50mm. I would like to know how good a new Noctilux would be, considering actual technology. A different thing is if it is economically feasible to produce it or not. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest leica_mage Posted August 11, 2006 Share #11 Posted August 11, 2006 They are old designs. The same for the Summicron 50mm. I would like to know how good a new Noctilux would be, considering actual technology. A different thing is if it is economically feasible to produce it or not. Very interesting point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
albertwang Posted August 11, 2006 Share #12 Posted August 11, 2006 Old design but it's still a wonderful lens. Refer to Puts' Leica Lens Comp. for the real scoop on this wonderful beast. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
modschiedler Posted August 11, 2006 Share #13 Posted August 11, 2006 A different thing is if it is economically feasible to produce it or not. certainly not, considering the superb 50 f/1.4 Asph – and who really needs and uses f/1.0? (on the other hand: keeping in mind that f/1.0 in terms of DOF would mean f/1.4 with the M8 – maybe this might let them think about a Nocti redesign?) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rolo Posted August 11, 2006 Share #14 Posted August 11, 2006 Is any body using the 75mm with an M3 ?? Can the absence of a 75mm frame be overcome by experience ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
modschiedler Posted August 11, 2006 Share #15 Posted August 11, 2006 Just use the 50 mm frame and subtract some space on each side approx as large as the focusing field. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rolo Posted August 11, 2006 Share #16 Posted August 11, 2006 So does that make the M3 a really good match for the 75mm Summicron ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tobey bilek Posted August 12, 2006 Share #17 Posted August 12, 2006 The 75 1.4 will disappear when the the last one made years ago is sold. If you want 1.4, get one now. This is the routine they followed for decades now. They say the old one is still current, right up until they sell the last one. 28 2.8 is the last case in point. Highly unlikely they will make any more and definately no redesign. They were sold side by side with the 2.0 until they were gone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
adan Posted August 12, 2006 Share #18 Posted August 12, 2006 Rolo: Yes one CAN use the 75 with only the 50 framemarks with a little visualization practice. I've skinnied down my film cameras to one beat-up old M4-2 in expectation of the digital M - and have been using both the 75 and a 28 on it (without framelines) as I wait. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rosuna Posted August 12, 2006 Share #19 Posted August 12, 2006 The 75 1.4 will disappear when the the last one made years ago is sold. Could it be the case of the Noctilux? The Summilux 75mm and the Noctilux 50mm are interesting lenses. Surely, they sold slowly, but continuously during the last 30 years. They are specialized tools. I would like to have two of them. I know the Summicron 50mm is a great lens. Leica considered the possibility of a new design several years ago. It can be improved. But in that moment it was not worth to make a complete redesing. The study for the Summicron was applied to the Summiluxes and Summicrons ASPH in the following years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest leica_mage Posted August 12, 2006 Share #20 Posted August 12, 2006 The 75 1.4 will disappear when the the last one made years ago is sold. If you want 1.4, get one now. This is the routine they followed for decades now. They say the old one is still current, right up until they sell the last one. 28 2.8 is the last case in point. Highly unlikely they will make any more and definately no redesign. They were sold side by side with the 2.0 until they were gone. Precisely. Well put. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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