michaellanda Posted March 5, 2020 Share #1 Posted March 5, 2020 (edited) Advertisement (gone after registration) Hi, I just purchased the M10 Monochrom with a 50mm apo. I’m not sure if my rangefinder focusing system is working properly. I seem to get it in focus as best as possible but the object is still semi blurry in the rangefinder viewing area. At infinity, the focus is fine. Can anyone post a pic of the rangefinder in focus to see if I’m just crazy. Or should I go take it to a leica store for them to check it out? Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Edited March 5, 2020 by michaellanda Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/307132-leica-m10-monochrom-rf-focusing/?do=findComment&comment=3925212'>More sharing options...
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marcg Posted March 5, 2020 Share #2 Posted March 5, 2020 If it is blurry in the rangefinder viewing area, by which I take to mean when you look at your targets with rangefinder then it sounds like you need a diopter to correct your vision Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaellanda Posted March 5, 2020 Author Share #3 Posted March 5, 2020 21 minutes ago, marcg said: If it is blurry in the rangefinder viewing area, by which I take to mean when you look at your targets with rangefinder then it sounds like you need a diopter to correct your vision the whole view is not blurry, I’m saying if I try and focus on words specifically, the words will never appear perfectly in focus Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
snooper Posted March 5, 2020 Share #4 Posted March 5, 2020 (edited) You might have an RF alignment issue. I always had my Ms RF checked at delivery, and the M10M needed an adjustment right out of the box. Takes 10 minutes. Edited March 5, 2020 by snooper Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted March 5, 2020 Share #5 Posted March 5, 2020 The focus patch is set at a virtual distance of 2m. One needs clear vision at that distance, corrected for any astigmatism. If so, and if the glass is clean, fingers aren’t intruding, and one’s eye is centered in the VF, then any remaining problem suggests a camera issue. Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaellanda Posted March 5, 2020 Author Share #6 Posted March 5, 2020 11 minutes ago, snooper said: You might have an RF alignment issue. I always had my Ms RF checked at delivery, and the M10M needed an adjustment right out of the box. Takes 10 minutes. Oh yours needed an adjustment? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaellanda Posted March 5, 2020 Author Share #7 Posted March 5, 2020 Advertisement (gone after registration) 8 minutes ago, Jeff S said: The focus patch is set at a virtual distance of 2m. One needs clear vision at that distance, corrected for any astigmatism. If so, and if the glass is clean, fingers aren’t intruding, and one’s eye is centered in the VF, then any remaining problem suggests a camera issue. Jeff Might just take it to the leica store to see if they can have a look at this point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
snooper Posted March 5, 2020 Share #8 Posted March 5, 2020 Apparently it's the picture which is not in focus, not the viewfinder ? (Yes my M10M just like my M10 needed an adjustment while both were brand new)... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaellanda Posted March 5, 2020 Author Share #9 Posted March 5, 2020 25 minutes ago, snooper said: Apparently it's the picture which is not in focus, not the viewfinder ? (Yes my M10M just like my M10 needed an adjustment while both were brand new)... I’m not sure, seems that it’s the viewfinder. I’m in New York, hopefully the Leica store SOHO knows how to confirm if it’s operating correctly Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted March 5, 2020 Share #10 Posted March 5, 2020 If it’s not, and if you bought it from them, get a new one. Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaellanda Posted March 5, 2020 Author Share #11 Posted March 5, 2020 19 minutes ago, Jeff S said: If it’s not, and if you bought it from them, get a new one. Jeff The problem is that I purchased the camera from the DC location. Let’s hope the NY store can resolve the ‘issue’ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmradman Posted March 5, 2020 Share #12 Posted March 5, 2020 Here is a basic question, is M10M your first M RF camera? A camera like M10M is fitted with Live view capability and it is very easy to check for focus accuracy. You can compere images focused using optical RF with image focused using rear live view screen. It helps if camera is fixed, perhaps using tripod, or keeping it stationary by resting it on the table top for instance. If you are getting better focused results with Liveview than your RF may need adjustment, or lens but it is less common. And if you used RF camera before you would know if your eyesight needs adjustment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaellanda Posted March 5, 2020 Author Share #13 Posted March 5, 2020 1 minute ago, mmradman said: Here is a basic question, is M10M your first M RF camera? A camera like M10M is fitted with Live view capability and it is very easy to check for focus accuracy. You can compere images focused using optical RF with image focused using rear live view screen. It helps if camera is fixed, perhaps using tripod, or keeping it stationary by resting it on the table top for instance. If you are getting better focused results with Liveview than your RF may need adjustment, or lens but it is less common. And if you used RF camera before you would know if your eyesight needs adjustment. It is my first rangefinder camera, but I have used the M10P in the past at some Leica events. I did the tripod test like you mentioned and focused the camera on some words on paper with live view. But through the rangefinder display, it seems that they aren’t coming at perfectly aligned. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted March 5, 2020 Share #14 Posted March 5, 2020 21 minutes ago, michaellanda said: The problem is that I purchased the camera from the DC location. Let’s hope the NY store can resolve the ‘issue’ If they diagnose a problem that requires service, you can still call Leica DC to discuss an exchange. Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaellanda Posted March 5, 2020 Author Share #15 Posted March 5, 2020 Just now, Jeff S said: If they diagnose a problem that requires service, you can still call Leica DC to discuss an exchange. Jeff Yes that’s true, I’ll keep the thread updated. I’ll stop by the store tomorrow Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
snooper Posted March 5, 2020 Share #16 Posted March 5, 2020 1 hour ago, michaellanda said: I’m not sure, seems that it’s the viewfinder. I’m in New York, hopefully the Leica store SOHO knows how to confirm if it’s operating correctly So if the pictures are in focus and the viewfinder is blurry, dont go to Leica but to your optician. Unfortunately we all have that same issue at one point, and Leica can't do much about it, aside the diopter corrections. They are expensive but they make sure the viewfinder is "in focus". 😉 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaellanda Posted March 5, 2020 Author Share #17 Posted March 5, 2020 1 hour ago, snooper said: So if the pictures are in focus and the viewfinder is blurry, dont go to Leica but to your optician. Unfortunately we all have that same issue at one point, and Leica can't do much about it, aside the diopter corrections. They are expensive but they make sure the viewfinder is "in focus". 😉 Yea not really sure what the problem. I think it would make sense for me to take it to the store and see if they think it’s all good. If so, then I know it’s me and not the camera. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliff S Posted March 5, 2020 Share #18 Posted March 5, 2020 did you clean the glass of the rangefinder? if it's smudged it could look blurry. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaellanda Posted March 5, 2020 Author Share #19 Posted March 5, 2020 6 minutes ago, Cliff S said: did you clean the glass of the rangefinder? if it's smudged it could look blurry. I did clean it. If someone can post a pic of the rangefinder in focus on something, that would be great. Maybe I’m just hallucinating and looking for problems. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bo-Sixten Posted March 6, 2020 Share #20 Posted March 6, 2020 (edited) 14 hours ago, snooper said: You might have an RF alignment issue. I always had my Ms RF checked at delivery, and the M10M needed an adjustment right out of the box. Takes 10 minutes. I had to adjust the vertical alignment on my M10M right out of the box too. I wear glasses so it might be that I look through the RF viewfinder a little askew and that's why. My M10 was fine though. It is easy to adjust yourself and there are good threads in the forum that describe how you do it. When adjusted correctly you should get a clear high contrast view in the little focus patch, just as in the rest of the viewing field. Edited March 6, 2020 by Bo-Sixten Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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