TheCarpenter Posted January 22, 2020 Share #1 Â Posted January 22, 2020 Advertisement (gone after registration) Are there any other X users that think the new Monochrom looks compelling? Â Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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teb1013 Posted January 22, 2020 Share #2  Posted January 22, 2020 If I were to move up to the M, I would want the flexibility of having either color or B/W. While I love Monochrome I wouldn’t want to be limited to it. Many disagree. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wda Posted January 22, 2020 Share #3  Posted January 22, 2020 4 hours ago, TheCarpenter said: Are there any other X users that think the new Monochrom looks compelling?  No. I can obtain perfectly acceptable monochrome conversions from my full-colour digital cameras. It would be a huge price to pay for occasional use and pleasure. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viv Posted January 22, 2020 Share #4 Â Posted January 22, 2020 6 hours ago, TheCarpenter said: Are there any other X users that think the new Monochrom looks compelling? Â It is likely that there are some X users who are of that view. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viv Posted January 22, 2020 Share #5  Posted January 22, 2020 1 hour ago, wda said: No. I can obtain perfectly acceptable monochrome conversions from my full-colour digital cameras. It would be a huge price to pay for occasional use and pleasure. I agree fully. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herr Barnack Posted January 22, 2020 Share #6  Posted January 22, 2020 Quote I can obtain perfectly acceptable monochrome conversions from my full-colour digital cameras. It would be a huge price to pay for occasional use and pleasure. True enough, but the M10 Monochrom is still a compelling piece of hardware. I am I work primarily in color these days. I can't help but think that with an M10M at hand, I would do a lot more black and white work. Henri Cartier-Bresson: “Shooting with a Leica is like a long tender kiss, like firing an automatic pistol, like an hour on the analyst’s couch." Translation - Leica cameras and lenses are about unbridled passion, not so much about practicality - although in some scenarios, there is no camera that is more practical. To each his own, though.     Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted January 22, 2020 Share #7 Â Posted January 22, 2020 Advertisement (gone after registration) 2 hours ago, Herr Barnack said: I can't help but think that with an M10M at hand, I would do a lot more black and white work. Â Â Â Â Â Like every time you use it. Jeff 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DwF Posted January 23, 2020 Share #8  Posted January 23, 2020 I am a longtime M shooter which was what led me to the Monochrom. Mine is the original CCD version (MM or M9M) and have no interest in upgrading to the new M10-M. While still growing with the MM, there is more than enough resolution for enlargements that I have made and will make with that camera. Files from the MM have a particularly distinctive look and for lack of better word, texture, and while there is no doubt the M10M is a better camera in many respects as is the 246, I wouldn't trade my MM for that one either. For me it is two--fold. The change to shooting a rangefinder camera: you may or may not find it satisfying for the investment into that and a couple M lenses. Then the conscious decision to go out shooting with only B&W. It differs from putting a color body in "de-saturation" mode and I do not say that disparagingly at all...a nice feature for digital cameras! If you are feeling compelled to venture more into B&W, the files from these cameras are really nice, even easy to work with when you nail the exposure. I continue to enjoy using my color bodies including the X Vario to shoot or convert to B&W. Below here is a file I liked working with from the MM and looks compressed here (both high and low end) but still okay I think. No doubt the newer model would preserve more info but there is a quality in the fabric of the image that just works for me. David Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members!   8 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members!   ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/305600-m10m/?do=findComment&comment=3897419'>More sharing options...
TheCarpenter Posted January 23, 2020 Author Share #9 Â Posted January 23, 2020 11 hours ago, Jeff S said: Like every time you use it. Jeff I actually laughed out loud at that. Â Thanks. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herr Barnack Posted January 23, 2020 Share #10  Posted January 23, 2020 16 hours ago, TheCarpenter said: I actually laughed out loud at that.  Thanks. Same here. 😄 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cnj Posted January 25, 2020 Share #11  Posted January 25, 2020 B&H has my order…I honestly don't know how much I'll get to use it in the next couple of years, but i it ships this week I'll have it for my next kid-less trip. Our last kid-less trip I shot Tri-X on the M3 so it'll let me break out some of those lenses again. As I mentioned in another thread, I find the X2 to continue to be the best "just-in-case" camera to carry around with the kids, so I expect it will continue to get a lot of use in parallel (not to mention the X-U continuing to offer a unique proposition). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCarpenter Posted January 25, 2020 Author Share #12  Posted January 25, 2020 54 minutes ago, cnj said: B&H has my order…I honestly don't know how much I'll get to use it in the next couple of years, but i it ships this week I'll have it for my next kid-less trip. Our last kid-less trip I shot Tri-X on the M3 so it'll let me break out some of those lenses again. As I mentioned in another thread, I find the X2 to continue to be the best "just-in-case" camera to carry around with the kids, so I expect it will continue to get a lot of use in parallel (not to mention the X-U continuing to offer a unique proposition). so you have an X2 as well as an X-U? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cnj Posted January 26, 2020 Share #13  Posted January 26, 2020 22 hours ago, TheCarpenter said: so you have an X2 as well as an X-U? I do. I bought the X2 used in 2013, and the X-U used from Keh the first time I saw B&H list it as discontinued (and with a specific trip through the Niagara Falls planned). Initially I thought I might replace the X2 with the X-U, but they're both very complementary (and the X-U works as an acceptable back-up in good weather, or donor for battery or SD card). The bulk and lack of hot-shoe for the EVF hinders the X-U when the X2 is an option. The M3 is one of my two favourite cameras when considering the process of taking a picture, so I've been waiting for a digital M that handled like the film cameras, and it's sounded like the M10 was the answer. I'd rather have the Monochrom version though for a variety of reasons which, other than the higher ISO reach, all fall under personal preference. Now, if there were an M10 Monochrom-D, I'd have been all over that :) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anika Posted January 26, 2020 Share #14  Posted January 26, 2020 On 1/22/2020 at 4:37 PM, Herr Barnack said: I am I work primarily in color these days. I can't help but think that with an M10M at hand, I would do a lot more black and white work.  You would HAVE to..... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herr Barnack Posted January 26, 2020 Share #15  Posted January 26, 2020 (edited) 4 hours ago, Anika said:  You would HAVE to..... I would still have my Q2 and M-P 240 for color work - but shooting with an M10M would require a different mindset when making images. As Henry Kissinger once said, "The absence of alternatives clears the mind marvelously." Edited January 26, 2020 by Herr Barnack 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anika Posted January 26, 2020 Share #16  Posted January 26, 2020 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Herr Barnack said: I would still have my Q2 and M-P 240 for color work - but shooting with an M10M would require a different mindset when making images. As Henry Kissinger once said, "The absence of alternatives clears the mind marvelously." I was just joking.... I have got M10 monochrom also and enjoy the possibility to have ONLY black & white "film" in it. What I like is the "purity" of the process when the light formed inside the lens is captured be the sensor without cross-processing after the Bayer filter - it reminds me of the analog film, capturing the light as it was. I love the idea of looking for the B&W motives and skip all the postcard views. And again... I don´t have to use the monochrome for everything, I still have other tools for different and more commercial subjects, but the monochrome is for my personal style, personal use - extravagant? yes, but who cares... other people have other hobby and spend fortune on that and nobody is questioning, why they do with Leica? Edited January 26, 2020 by Anika 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted January 26, 2020 Share #17 Â Posted January 26, 2020 4 hours ago, Anika said: Â You would HAVE to..... Post #7. Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anika Posted January 26, 2020 Share #18 Â Posted January 26, 2020 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Jeff S said: Post #7. Jeff I know Jeff.... I got the idea of your post (which I liked), just could not resist to make a joke again Edited January 26, 2020 by Anika Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter_S Posted February 15, 2020 Share #19 Â Posted February 15, 2020 (edited) Yes, but a monochrome X1/2-based camera would be of equal interest. Edited February 15, 2020 by Peter_S Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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