DrM Posted January 4, 2020 Share #1  Posted January 4, 2020 Advertisement (gone after registration) Hi Currently I’m a M240 user and in the process of switching to a SL2. For an upcoming 10 day trip to a 6000m mountain I would like to take the SL2. I plan to take pictures and do video (4K) First, any thoughts of the lens setup? - vario 16-35, 50L - vario 24-90L - M15, M28, M35, M50 Secondly, what is the best battery management? 2 SL batteries and a batterypack? What capacity do I need for 5-8 recharges? Thirdly, storage. With a buffet size of 4gb for 78 DNGs, I anticipate 4000 pictures/200gb; plus 2h of video. What size is the 2h of video(4k)? Best regards, Marc  Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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jaapv Posted January 4, 2020 Share #2 Â Posted January 4, 2020 Are you climbing with or without oxygen? If the last, I would advise a D-Lux. Or Q2. As for storage, take double the number of cards that you think you will need. Most of all, enjoy your climb and experience it through your eyes, not through the viewfinder. The best images will be stored between your ears, not on the card. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackDoc Posted January 4, 2020 Share #3  Posted January 4, 2020 First of all - i don‘t have any experiance with the video mode... The other points - the weight is the leading argument -in conclusion SL—II with 24-90 (and polarizer!) Akku: how about a solar powerbank combined with a nitecore USB charger? This way might get you more independent from anything else. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrM Posted January 4, 2020 Author Share #4  Posted January 4, 2020 I’ll climb without oxygen, and I will take your eye vs EVF experience whole-heartedly As for the Q2, I do have the M setup, but consciously decided to switch to the SL2 for flexibility and retro-fitting the M lenses.  The Q2 would be better weight/size wise for this trip, but I don’t want to invest in a fixed lens setup. The 24-90 has all, and is most tempting I must admit for this trip. How often do you use it on average if you have your M lenses as well? Street, family, day trips? And what is the IQ gap to the L primes? Best, Marc  Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Richardson Posted January 4, 2020 Share #5 Â Posted January 4, 2020 I would advise trying the M lenses first, if you have not already. The 15mm and 28mm especially might not do as well on the SL2 as they do on the M. But for long days and hard work, I would much rather pick the M than a heavy SL2 and zoom. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
snooper Posted January 4, 2020 Share #6  Posted January 4, 2020 Are you carrying your gear or will you call up sherpas 😂? SL2 plus a 24-90 plus batteries, charger, battery pack... is already quite some significant weight on your shoulders, at 6000m... 1 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted January 4, 2020 Share #7 Â Posted January 4, 2020 Advertisement (gone after registration) My guess is that he is doing Kilimanjaro No Sherpas there, but helpful guides nonetheless. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
snooper Posted January 4, 2020 Share #8  Posted January 4, 2020 (edited) It is indeed the Uhuru season..  Then don't forget to take the 90-280, a lens offering marvelous landscape options... 😎 Edited January 4, 2020 by snooper Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thighslapper Posted January 4, 2020 Share #9  Posted January 4, 2020 (edited) I would suspect above 4500m you will curse every additional 100g ......... As above, if you must take an SL2 ..... you miss very little if you take just the 24-90 and Nitecore charger for when power available and a 2600mAh + power bank. That alone clocks up half what the ultralight hikers tend to carry. Load up with plenty cheap SD's for stills and reserve the fast expensive ones for video. A lot depends on what else you will have to take ....... if it was me I would be sorting out my CL gear and avoid FF. 🤔 Thomas Heaton is currently posting a rather salutary set of videos on his Nepal hike ...... and despite deliberately downsizing to Fuji APS-C and limiting his gear had a real struggle.... https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCfhW84xfA6gEc4hDK90rR1Q/videos Make a pile of gear that you think is 'essential' and then throw away half of it has been my rule of thumb for these sort of dilemmas ..... Edited January 4, 2020 by thighslapper Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wattsy Posted January 4, 2020 Share #10 Â Posted January 4, 2020 (edited) Quote - vario 16-35, 50L - vario 24-90L - M15, M28, M35, M50 Blimey, I'd be cursing that amount of gear going for a day's walk on chalk downland, let alone carrying it for a week in the mountains. Not just the weight (which would IMO feel considerable at 20,000ft) but the sheer hassle of stopping to take off my bag and dig out a lens, etc. to take a photograph would become tedious quite quickly. An M body plus a maximum of two small lenses would be my choice. Edited January 4, 2020 by wattsy 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
otto.f Posted January 4, 2020 Share #11  Posted January 4, 2020 (edited) I’m afraid you’ll have to cue for a name change into DrSL; don’t know if that procedure will be finished before your climb. Usually they are not very flexible here for people who leave M, you get an in-depth interview etc. I never went as high as 6000m, but I did do the IncaTrail and some hikes in Tibet up to max 4950m. I must say that up to that altitude the thin air was less a problem than I expected even with quite some weight in my backpack. The secret against altitude sickness lies in: no alcohol. And perhaps the coca leaves helped too, that’s what the Peruvians say at least. 6000m though is another step up and I really do not see the need for a 50SL plus a 50M in your pocket. Although the SL lies nice in your hands and does not feel very heavy, it fysically is in your backpack. I did hikes with full equipment in Patagonia, FitzRoy and TorresDelPaine, and that is not high enough for thin air but quite steep. I had an M9, an MM1 with three lenses and a Mamiya 7ii with one lens and I can tell you’ll feel every step. Luckily my son carried the SL collection with a tripod. However, afterwards we agreed upon the idea that the trip had been of more value to us exactly because we did have so much photographic equipment with us than it would have been without it. You are taking much more time to see everything and wait upon the right light, clouds surrounding peaks, etc. Edited January 4, 2020 by otto.f Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrM Posted January 4, 2020 Author Share #12  Posted January 4, 2020 Thanks for all the replies. Indeed the Kilimanjaro this time,... I’ll be the photog of the group and have others carry the generic stuff, do just my gear, sleeping stuff and clothes. In the past the M was my companion, and I’ll keep the M6. That and my first name is Marc, will hopefully get me through the interview and allow me to keep DrM ;). As a last consideration, if the 15&28 are the lesser performers, what is your experience with the WATE on the SL? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aktenschrank Posted January 4, 2020 Share #13  Posted January 4, 2020 (edited) Not sure how frequent you've already been trekking/climbing with your current gear. That probably gives you an idea about your personal "carrying limits". For me, after quite some multi-day treks in Nepal, India & the Alps I value weight, accessibility & flexibility over everything else. So I´d personally stay miles away from my SL2 for that kind of adventure. My preferred gear for treks where I´m carrying everything for multiple days is a Sony RX100 VII. Great, versatile focal lengths, good enough image quality, small, easily accessible when underway, light. (I´m ok to be smashed by mentioning this brand😀) . In Leica Land I would go for a CL with the Vario kit lens. If I would take the SL2 , I´ll put the Panasonic 24-105 on it. Most versatile lens for the system and much lighter then the 24-90. Edited January 4, 2020 by Aktenschrank 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted January 4, 2020 Share #14 Â Posted January 4, 2020 I would not bother about charging gizmos and just take four or five spare batteries fully charged. And I would slip a CL body in as a backup, with a few spare batteries of its own. Or go fully CL, with two bodies and two or three zooms. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrM Posted January 4, 2020 Author Share #15 Â Posted January 4, 2020 I never considered the CL as an option, but that is a good idea as it shares the L mount. Thank for all your feedback, i will drop by at the store this week Best Marc Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted January 4, 2020 Share #16  Posted January 4, 2020 1 hour ago, DrM said: I never considered the CL as an option, but that is a good idea as it shares the L mount. Thank for all your feedback, i will drop by at the store this week Best Marc I’m fact,even in IQ it is a perfect SL companion. Of course the SL is the heavy artillery but it must be comforting to be able to pull out its smaller brother and be sure that you are not losing out significantly on  your photographic result. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnbuckley Posted January 5, 2020 Share #17  Posted January 5, 2020 I’ve been using the SL and my Ms on long hikes in mountains for... well, at least with the M, a long time. Jaap is correct that you need a backup camera, and a CL works if you’re taking an SL with lens(es). But honestly, all you need is the 24-90. On a Kilimanjaro climb, you won’t need wider than 24, and I’ll be surprised if you need longer than 90. Take one prime lens in case dust gets in the gears of the 24-90, as happened to me in Iceland last summer. Take a polarizer, and extra batteries. Use all the extra space you now have in your backpack for Bandaids and socks! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted January 6, 2020 Share #18  Posted January 6, 2020 And don’t forget: When you get over 3000 m the UV filtering of your lenses is insufficient. Use a UV filter and stack it with your polarizer. (Especially with your polarizer!  ) 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herr Barnack Posted January 6, 2020 Share #19  Posted January 6, 2020 On 1/4/2020 at 6:14 AM, snooper said: Are you carrying your gear or will you call up sherpas 😂? SL2 plus a 24-90 plus batteries, charger, battery pack... is already quite some significant weight on your shoulders, at 6000m... I would suggest also renting a Nikon D5 and a Nikkor 800mm f/5.6E FL ED VR to take with your other gear. You never know when you will encounter an opportunity to do some bird photography... 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
otto.f Posted January 6, 2020 Share #20  Posted January 6, 2020 5 hours ago, jaapv said: And don’t forget: When you get over 3000 m the UV filtering of your lenses is insufficient. Use a UV filter and stack it with your polarizer. (Especially with your polarizer!  ) Extremely important indeed Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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