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SL2 EVF Mag issue... (Digiloyd)

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Exactly what I pointed out. I feel this is a big fuss about nothing and exactly what you would expect from taking a tiny bit of the image on the sensor and sticking it on a high resolution screen to v

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9 minutes ago, Donzo98 said:

@photonc has one... and has extensively tested. Primarily an M glass user.

Another friend in Cali has one too.

Id suggest you slow down and let those with first hand knowledge post their actual experiences. You have made your point now 12x in this thread alone...your comments imply you have first hand experience.

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1 minute ago, Chaemono said:

Oh, well, if photonc has tested it, then it must be so...photonc has 12 posts on this forum. 😂

Does it say “f@*#!ng idiot” on my forehead?

Wow... OK.

No worries... I'm out.

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Just now, Chaemono said:

Don’t leave.  I need one of them lobotomies...in order to believe photonc.  😂

Not leaving...just backing off at the request of our moderator. I'm always available for a craniotomy...

BTW... you don't have to post a lot to know what you see.

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1 minute ago, Chaemono said:

I’ll get back to you on this...next time photonc posts some test results. 😁

He will... you guys can work it out amongst yourselves :)

Maybe you will be right in your prediction... that I will buy an SL2 also. You keeping yours??

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vor 1 Minute schrieb Donzo98:

He will... you guys can work it out amongst yourselves :)

Maybe you will be right in your prediction... that I will buy an SL2 also. You keeping yours??

Keeping mine because it feels so nice, is gorgeous and produces incredible files for a FF camera.  Keeping the S1 for now, too.  The a7R III was the low light option in situations that required high ISO and fast shutter speed before.  With the L-mount alliance, no need for Sony’s high ISO performance anymore.  The S1 and the Sigma fp use a Sony sensor and take Leica lenses. 😀  I will most likely get rid of the S1 and get an fp instead. They use the same sensor.  The fp doesn’t have IBIS but I would only use it with high ISO AND fast shutter speed anyway.  Hence, no need for IBIS in the Sigma fp.

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1 minute ago, Chaemono said:

Keeping mine because it feels so nice, is gorgeous and produces incredible files for a FF camera.  Keeping the S1 for now, too.  The a7R III was the low light option in situations that required high ISO and fast shutter speed before.  With the L-mount alliance, no need for Sony’s high ISO performance anymore.  The S1 and the Sigma fp use a Sony sensor and take Leica lenses. 😀  I will most likely get rid of the S1 and get an fp instead. They use the same sensor.  The fp doesn’t have IBIS but I would only use it with high ISO AND fast shutter speed anyway.  Hence, no need for IBIS in the Sigma fp.

The S1 and S1R or SL2 would be the perfect combo...

S1 for HIGH ISO... S1R or SL2 for high resolution. Nice to have choices for sure.

I don't need two FF bodies though... have the Q2.

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47 minutes ago, Donzo98 said:

Wow... OK.

No worries... I'm out.

You're welcome to express your opinions and complaints, I express my regularly. I thought you owned an SL2 and were reporting first hand knowledge. I agree that the EVF has some issues...but focusing with 4x is the least of them. I have no issues obtaining critical focus quickly with the focus aid enabled.

The reason the 4x display is not perfectly sharp is that the image is magnified 4X and presented full screen. Its not possible for it to look as sharp as the 1x view unless the window is scaled back or a much higher res display is used. I could be wrong, but doesn't the Sony only display a smaller image at 4x? which would explain why it appears sharper.

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2 minutes ago, digitalfx said:

You're welcome to express your opinions and complaints, I express my regularly. I thought you owned an SL2 and were reporting first hand knowledge. I agree that the EVF has some issues...but focusing with 4x is the least of them. I have no issues obtaining critical focus quickly with the focus aid enabled.

The reason the 4x display is not perfectly sharp is that the image is magnified 4X and presented full screen. Its not possible for it to look as sharp as the 1x view unless the window is scaled back or a much higher res display is used. I could be wrong, but doesn't the Sony only display a smaller image at 4x? which would explain why it appears sharper.

@photonc will be chiming in to give his first experience. I will stay tuned... 

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1 hour ago, Chaemono said:

Oh, well, if photonc has tested it, then it must be so...photonc has 12 posts on this forum. 😂

Does it say “f@*#!ng idiot” on my forehead?

How many posts do you need before your knowledge and opinions are worth something? 

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Gerade eben schrieb Joakim:

How many posts do you need before your knowledge and opinions are worth something? 

The answer is, none.  Just look at the TV stocks. 😂

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Oh, well, if photonc has tested it, then it must be so...photonc has 12 posts on this forum. 😂

Does it say “f@*#!ng idiot” on my forehead?

@Chaemono With friendly people like yourself on this forum, I really should post more 😀. Not sure why you are so angry. Apparently to be credible, I need thousands of posts and all must be positive towards Leica. I have no bias in this and simply shot pictures with my iphone through the EVF's using the same lens attached to each. I did this because I thought that people who don't have an SL2, S1R and A9 in hand, might be interested in what I was seeing. I know that I appreciate when others post this type of anecdotal experience. I own many Leica products and I am a huge fan but without constructive criticism how do you expect them to get better? There were many issues with the Q1 at launch and they listened to feedback and made improvements in firmware. For general purpose and occasional MF work, the SL2 is fine, especially if you are close to your subject. The challenge arises when you need higher magnification to achieve critical focus. Other cameras with lower EVF specs perform better in this regard. You sounds very passionate and confident about the SL2 so I am assuming you own one. Please take it to your local camera store and pickup a Nikon Z6/Z7, Sony A9,R4,R3,A3 or Canon EOS R and select 9X magnification on each camera. Your eyes will not deceive you, at some distances the SL2 will be so wormy and pixelated you won't be able to ensure critical focus yet all other cameras will display a clear image. 

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5 minutes ago, photonc said:

@Chaemono With friendly people like yourself on this forum, I really should post more 😀. Not sure why you are so angry. Apparently to be credible, I need thousands of posts and all must be positive towards Leica. I have no bias in this and simply shot pictures with my iphone through the EVF's using the same lens attached to each. I did this because I thought that people who don't have an SL2, S1R and A9 in hand, might be interested in what I was seeing. I know that I appreciate when others post this type of anecdotal experience. I own many Leica products and I am a huge fan but without constructive criticism how do you expect them to get better? There were many issues with the Q1 at launch and they listened to feedback and made improvements in firmware. For general purpose and occasional MF work, the SL2 is fine, especially if you are close to your subject. The challenge arises when you need higher magnification to achieve critical focus. Other cameras with lower EVF specs perform better in this regard. You sounds very passionate and confident about the SL2 so I am assuming you own one. Please take it to your local camera store and pickup a Nikon Z6/Z7, Sony A9,R4,R3,A3 or Canon EOS R and select 9X magnification on each camera. Your eyes will not deceive you, at some distances the SL2 will be so wormy and pixelated you won't be able to ensure critical focus yet all other cameras will display a clear image. 

Glad to see you :) I needed someone to take the gun fire with me... 

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vor 4 Minuten schrieb photonc:

Please take it to your local camera store and pickup a Nikon Z6/Z7, Sony A9,R4,R3,A3 or Canon EOS R and select 9X magnification on each camera. Your eyes will not deceive you, at some distances the SL2 will be so wormy and pixelated you won't be able to ensure critical focus yet all other cameras will display a clear image. 

I have an α7R III, a Z7, an S1, an S1R, an SL2, an M10, and rented an α7R IV recently.  Yeah, I believe you. 😂

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