uulrich Posted August 10, 2006 Share #21 Posted August 10, 2006 Advertisement (gone after registration) [...] the hold? Are these hand checked, or blasted with the high strength x-rays? They can easily x-ray these cases, it just goes through as it would do if your case is made of thin tin foil. They can adjust the x-ray apparently and blow up their 'exposure settings' easily. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted August 10, 2006 Posted August 10, 2006 Hi uulrich, Take a look here OK. So _now_ what do we do with our film and our kit?. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
gylee Posted August 10, 2006 Share #22 Posted August 10, 2006 These Rimowa are too soft. The easily get dents and dings even after a very short period of time. That's the nature of aluminium unfortunately. Gives 'em a nice patina after a while, IMO. Which reminds me that there used to be a great piece on the QANTAS website which suggested that if they broke your luggage, that was just evidence that your luggage was doing what is was designed to do in protecting your possessions... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andybarton Posted August 10, 2006 Author Share #23 Posted August 10, 2006 that makes two of us; as long as lost luggage is reality I would like to opt in for cabin luggage ... :-) You may not have a choice in future.... Our Government won't let this ratchet of security levels slip very easily. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hm1912 Posted August 10, 2006 Share #24 Posted August 10, 2006 The thing is that security measures in most airports aren't really sufficient anyway, and so when there is a scare they have to institute such tough regulations. What they should be doing is working to such a standard that they don't have to change their security policies so drastically. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wattsy Posted August 10, 2006 Share #25 Posted August 10, 2006 The Aluminium Case Company (http://www.aluminiumcases.com/) in West London custom build 'hold proof' cases for any set of equipment. Not cheap but reassuring (these cases can stand up to all sorts of abuse from the baggage handler gorillas). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
uulrich Posted August 10, 2006 Share #26 Posted August 10, 2006 It boils down to the question how we can travel with our gear ... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest leica_mage Posted August 10, 2006 Share #27 Posted August 10, 2006 Advertisement (gone after registration) The thing is that security measures in most airports aren't really sufficient anyway, and so when there is a scare they have to institute such tough regulations. What they should be doing is working to such a standard that they don't have to change their security policies so drastically. Precisely. And a good, tough look at what all this implies to begin with might help. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Larbalestier Posted August 10, 2006 Share #28 Posted August 10, 2006 Sadly it looks like Peli protectors and buying film at destination perhaps Domke can bring out a new range of clear plastic 803 style satchels to carry those non photographic essentials.......... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
earleygallery Posted August 10, 2006 Share #29 Posted August 10, 2006 Chances are, if your M or R was in your luggage, when it comes up on the x ray screen the security guy will think it looks odd (cameras don't look like that!) and it will be opened up and who knows what they'll do to it. Probably prod the shutter curtain, unscrew the top and base plates etc. On a recent flight back from Spain I found my (locked) case had been forced open....... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hm1912 Posted August 10, 2006 Share #30 Posted August 10, 2006 Leica's look like a camera. I doubt they opened it because they thought it looked funny, they probably did precisely because it was a camera and there was some concern that something might be inside the camera. That it was forced open is odd, since most aiport security are supposed to have the keys to open most luggage. I found this website for Pelican cases. They seem reasonaly priced.... what do you guys think? And what size would do you think I would need for an R9 one lens (28-90) an a metz flash? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
spylaw4 Posted August 10, 2006 Share #31 Posted August 10, 2006 What I"m interested in - apart from the possibility of theft on one's camera etc. - is the potential for the higher strength X-rays to damge or degrade data on the SD card. Just how great is that risk? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
telyt Posted August 10, 2006 Share #32 Posted August 10, 2006 I wouldn't be keen to put my laptop or Leica in the hold! With good reason. Luggage is supposed to be unlocked, or the security personnel will 'unlock' it for you. My brother made the mistake of putting his camera with 300mm lens in his luggage and during the hand search of his luggage the rent-a-cops wanted to look inside the camera, so they took the lens off the only way they knew how. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
uulrich Posted August 10, 2006 Share #33 Posted August 10, 2006 What I"m interested in - apart from the possibility of theft on one's camera etc. - is the potential for the higher strength X-rays to damge or degrade data on the SD card. Just how great is that risk? Hi Brian; some thoughts about x-ray and SD cards can be found here:- http:// http://www.leica-camera-user.com/digital-forum/2072-x-rays-flash-memory.html Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
uulrich Posted August 10, 2006 Share #34 Posted August 10, 2006 Chances are, if your M or R was in your luggage, when it comes up on the x ray screen the security guy will think it looks odd (cameras don't look like that!) and it will be opened up and who knows what they'll do to it. Probably prod the shutter curtain, unscrew the top and base plates etc. On a recent flight back from Spain I found my (locked) case had been forced open....... I agree w/ James. He's also right about 'accidently opened' luggage. IMHO stuffing cameras into check-in luggage is like throwing Leicas away. Any discussion about what case and how rock solid these are is a discussion how to spill your Leica:- In a blue bin or in a grey bin. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mat_mcdermott Posted August 10, 2006 Share #35 Posted August 10, 2006 If you're worried about theft of luggage contents by baggage handlers (in the U.S. a very much justified concern...) you could always ship your gear to your first desitination. Buy a Pelican case, lock it and ship the whole thing. Not cheap unless the contents are just an M and a couple of lenses, but you can lock it and the case will likely be treated better than by the commercial airlines. I always liked train travel better than planes in any case... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
earleygallery Posted August 10, 2006 Share #36 Posted August 10, 2006 We need a 'Leica exchange' program, members of the forum when travelling by plane can leave their Leica at home and borrow from a fellow member........... Seriously though, I won't be taking my Leica away unless I can hang on to it during the flight - wonder how they would be about carrying in on board around your neck? Every trip will become a one challenge! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbretteville Posted August 10, 2006 Share #37 Posted August 10, 2006 What I"m interested in - apart from the possibility of theft on one's camera etc. - is the potential for the higher strength X-rays to damge or degrade data on the SD card. Just how great is that risk? Aparently yes, so you'll need a card reader gizmo that burns your images to a DVD, make at least two copies. one to go with the luggage and one to send home via post or currier. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wattsy Posted August 10, 2006 Share #38 Posted August 10, 2006 I can hang on to it during the flight - wonder how they would be about carrying in on board around your neck? I think it's fair to say there is zero chance of them allowing it under the current restrictions. At the moment you are not even allowed to take a book or newspaper on board. I'd hate to be taking a long haul flight at the moment - can you imagine, all the way to Australia with just the in-flight magazine to read! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
albertwang Posted August 10, 2006 Share #39 Posted August 10, 2006 That's simple. I won't fly to England until they get rid of that F*****G dumb policy. Geewhiz. Such foolishness of mankind Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mat_mcdermott Posted August 10, 2006 Share #40 Posted August 10, 2006 I think it's fair to say there is zero chance of them allowing it under the current restrictions. At the moment you are not even allowed to take a book or newspaper on board. I'd hate to be taking a long haul flight at the moment - can you imagine, all the way to Australia with just the in-flight magazine to read! I was thinking the exact same thing... just thinking about a 14 hour flight without my own reading materials makes me want to bang my head against the nearest hard object. Let's start lobbying airlines to give up three seats a flight so they can fill the space with better reading materials. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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