stunsworth Posted August 2, 2007 Share #21 Posted August 2, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) Can this thread be merged with the one in the customer thread? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted August 2, 2007 Posted August 2, 2007 Hi stunsworth, Take a look here *4* New Summarits. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
blakley Posted August 2, 2007 Share #22 Posted August 2, 2007 Rubber finger grip on the 75 and 90? It will be interesting to see which existing lenses get displaced. 90/2.8 and 50/2.8? Another 4 lens codes used up... Are you sure it's rubber ribbing? The 90/4 Elmarit has a milled metal focusing collar which looks a lot like this. (BTW the other thread has a picture of the 90/2.5 which is clearly not collapsible; I assumed the picture in the linked thread, which looked like a collapsible lens, was the "missing" (from that page) 90 - apologies. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guy_mancuso Posted August 2, 2007 Share #23 Posted August 2, 2007 All the 2.5 lenses look like there for the M system Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
marknorton Posted August 2, 2007 Share #24 Posted August 2, 2007 Those prices are German prices, so divide by 1.19 to give price before tax, mulitply by (about) 1.35 to give US Dollars. So, €1000 = $1120, €1250 = $1400. If you buy all 4 lenses as a set, it looks like you save €550 or $625 Good news, I would say, and I like the way the Summarits match the Summicrons, 1 for 1. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
marknorton Posted August 2, 2007 Share #25 Posted August 2, 2007 Are you sure it's rubber ribbing? The 90/4 Elmarit has a milled metal focusing collar which looks a lot like this. (BTW the other thread has a picture of the 90/2.5 which is clearly not collapsible; I assumed the picture in the linked thread, which looked like a collapsible lens, was the "missing" (from that page) 90 - apologies. Bob, I was asking a question, it looks a bit like a rubber grip to me but may just be the picture. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gareth_c Posted August 2, 2007 Share #26 Posted August 2, 2007 Of course they will probably make the money back by charging a fortune for the lens hoods! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andybarton Posted August 2, 2007 Share #27 Posted August 2, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) The 90 is half a stop faster and about 350 Euros cheaper than the existing f2.8 that I expect it will replace. They're all much cheaper than the equivalent f2 lenses, and only half a stop slower. This is why they are attractive. For people who want to pay £1500 for a 35mm, the existing lenses will still be there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlancasterd Posted August 2, 2007 Share #28 Posted August 2, 2007 Too slow, too expensive. Depends what you want to do with them... :) You already have a good range of F1.4 and F2 lenses to choose from if your work is mainly low light, wide aperture, stuff. If you want a light, high quality, walk-around outfit, for times when the sun is shining (or there is at least a reasonable amount of light) a choice of these 4, plus the new Elmarit 28mm and the CV15 and/or 12 would make a good starting point for a very capable and relatively inexpensive collection - especially now that we can use the higher M8 ISOs and still maintain image quality. I will certainly be considering the Summarit 35 as a 'body cap' for my M8. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
carstenw Posted August 2, 2007 Share #29 Posted August 2, 2007 There are some interesting questions left open by this: First of all, 35, 50, 75, 90, those are all standard or tele on the M8. I presume that these lenses are FF, but more aimed at the M8. Shouldn't there also be a 24/3.5 and 28/3.5 and maybe even 21/3.5 Summaron? or 21/3.5 and 25/3.5? Secondly, they are 6-bit coded. What are the codes? Thirdly, have they done anything in the design differently wrt. IR, ie. is one internal surface perhaps designed to take an IR coating directly, at a perpendicular angle, to avoid corner problems? Fourthly, relatively affordable lenses though they are, like mid-range Canon L lenses, the M8 is still a very expensive camera. Will there be a budget M8, perhaps stamped from alloy instead of milled from brass, and 8MP instead of 10MP? I presume these lenses are made to be easy to manufacture with lower required precision. I presume that means that they will all be bang on as delivered, and none of this back and forth we have to deal with now? These lenses are delivered without a lens shade (optional), and with a velour baggie instead of the zippered leather pouches. I guess these are aimed directly at Zeiss? I will be buying some baggies for my lenses, for sure. Finally, I wonder if Leica is looking forward here at all, in that there is some way that these lenses can transfer aperture information to the camera, even if the M8 can't do that. A simple lever would do it, or an electronic contact like the R line, or whatever. That would be a dream setup. If the M8 could be retrofitted with the aperture reader, that would be awesome. Leica please read this post and answer yes to all my questions! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
marknorton Posted August 2, 2007 Share #30 Posted August 2, 2007 The change in type face is quite striking - check the font used for the orange focal length on the lens and compare it with the more angular style used in other current lenses. Another sign of Leica reinforcing its heritage and with a move back to Wetzlar being considered, the pieces are all beginning to fit together. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
etrigan63 Posted August 2, 2007 Share #31 Posted August 2, 2007 We will now have an Official Leica code to hand install on the CV 35mm f/2.5 Color Skopar Pancake II. Bwahahahahahaha! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
carstenw Posted August 2, 2007 Share #32 Posted August 2, 2007 The name Summarit is interesting, btw. The most famous I am aware of is the 50mm f/1.5 Summarit. I wonder why this name was chosen? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guy_mancuso Posted August 2, 2007 Share #33 Posted August 2, 2007 Maybe this is what i saw in Solms in the prototype room. I have been predicting this for a long time now a low cost lens line, maybe this is it and at the price point I talked over with leica. These will be a huge hit and will bring in more M8 users at a lower costbut also supplement a existing lens line. If you have a couple fast lenses than these maybe great fill in the gap lenses. I'm all for it even though i am all set with glass this is a welcome sign . Now if they bring out the 15 F4 than they really have been listening. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
M6J Posted August 2, 2007 Share #34 Posted August 2, 2007 The name Summarit is interesting, btw. The most famous I am aware of is the 50mm f/1.5 Summarit. I wonder why this name was chosen? Because f/2.5 is between Summ-icron (f/2) and Elm-arit (f/2.8) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rona!d Posted August 2, 2007 Share #35 Posted August 2, 2007 Maybe this is what i saw in Solms in the prototype room. I have been predicting this for a long time now a low cost lens line, maybe this is it That´s why they call it "the Guy Mancuso-line" on the factory floors Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
carstenw Posted August 2, 2007 Share #36 Posted August 2, 2007 Yes, but Summarit was already used for f/1.5... Anyway, something is odd here: I can't find more information about these lenses anywhere. Not on Leica's site, not on any other news sites, not on Google, nowhere. I wonder if it is real. I expect so, it is very plausible and fits with what we know, and the clues in the LFI interview with Stephen K. Lee, but why only this one magazine? Did they jump the gun? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tummydoc Posted August 2, 2007 Share #37 Posted August 2, 2007 Well I for one am both dismayed and ecstatic. Dismayed because as a collector I feel obligated to buy all three Ecstatic because now Erwin will have something to research and write about that he actually understands. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
carstenw Posted August 2, 2007 Share #38 Posted August 2, 2007 By the way, the title of the thread is incorrect: there are four Summarits: 35, 50, 75, 90. The 90 is just a touch longer and wider than the 50 Lux Asph, with the 75 being about the same size. The 50 is the smallest, and will most likely replace the 50 Elmar. I also expect the 90 Elmarit to be dropped. Vinay, €4750 for all four is not that bad; still less than a Noctilux new. Since you already have a self-confessed huge collection, this should pose no problem. Which lenses do you have by the way? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guy_mancuso Posted August 2, 2007 Share #39 Posted August 2, 2007 yes Vinay we are in trouble now, I can hear Erwins footsteps Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luigi bertolotti Posted August 2, 2007 Share #40 Posted August 2, 2007 Ah Ah Ah... I WROTE IT ! "they are becoming marketing wise" : good move to push M8 sales for newcomers ... honest (or not-too-obscene ?) price for branded lenses...without the prestige-carrying "Asph"...and the "easy" max aperture maybe can make forget some strange problems of fine focusing... . Hope they'll result good... surely serious tests against SIMILAR Cos/Voigt shall be carried on... nice dimensions it seems... I suspect no chrome version ... for me, I'm already thinking of the 75... I've got onlythe Hektor 73 of the '20s... .I was thinking about the 75 CV or a used Lux... for me right announcement at the right time. Nice also the idea to rejuvenate a classic name... Hektors in the future ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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