jaapv Posted October 4, 2019 Share #41 Posted October 4, 2019 Advertisement (gone after registration) Indeed, more so than human beings. At least they don't destroy their habitat. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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AlanJW Posted October 4, 2019 Share #42 Posted October 4, 2019 17 minutes ago, Michael Geschlecht said: Hello, Jaap, If we can use chimpanzee DNA instead of monkey DNA we find that: The time when chimpanzees do silly things like you have written about above: Is when there is an OVER abundance of whatever it is (ie: Bananas) that is right in front of them. When bananas are available in reasonable amounts chimpanzees are usually reasonably reasonable in their utilization of them. Best Regards, Michael Did the bananas in the Chimpanzee tests have red dots? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Geschlecht Posted October 4, 2019 Share #43 Posted October 4, 2019 1 minute ago, jaapv said: Indeed, more so than human beings. At least they don't destroy their habitat. Hello Jaap, People have the ability to modify the Planet's environment for mammals, reptiles, fish, birds, etc. more than other mammals do. 1 of the problems with having this ability is that this ability to modify does not come with an instruction manual. Or an Oversight Board that is there to protect the Planet from over utilization to the point where the Planet can no longer heal itself. When the Planet is effected to the point where it cannot return itself to what it was before, or modify itself to adapt to the new circumstance: Change happens. Not always in a manner that the mammals who are changing it can predict or control. And, not always for the best. Unnecessarily sad. Best Regards, Michael 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Geschlecht Posted October 4, 2019 Share #44 Posted October 4, 2019 1 minute ago, AlanJW said: Did the bananas in the Chimpanzee tests have red dots? Hello Alan, No red dots. Just bananas brought in by the truckload & put in front of a community of chimpanzees who were living a nice chimpanzee life. The down side of what happened was so severe that the banana pile had to be taken away & the experiment ended. It took an extended time period for the chimpanzee community to rebuilt its relationships internally. Best Regards, Michael Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ru2far2c Posted October 10, 2019 Share #45 Posted October 10, 2019 So how many in the US market plan to buy a new SL with the 25% proposed tariff tax that is due to go into affect on 18, Oct.? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted October 10, 2019 Share #46 Posted October 10, 2019 2 minutes ago, ru2far2c said: So how many in the US market plan to buy a new SL with the 25% proposed tariff tax that is due to go into affect on 18, Oct.? The tariffs apply to lenses, not cameras. Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedaes Posted October 10, 2019 Share #47 Posted October 10, 2019 Advertisement (gone after registration) 18 minutes ago, Jeff S said: The tariffs apply to lenses, not cameras. Jeff https://www.digitalcameraworld.com/news/danke-trump-german-cameras-and-lenses-to-be-subject-to-25-import-fees Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted October 10, 2019 Share #48 Posted October 10, 2019 5 minutes ago, pedaes said: https://www.digitalcameraworld.com/news/danke-trump-german-cameras-and-lenses-to-be-subject-to-25-import-fees From the original document... “Objective lenses and parts & access. thereof, for cameras, projectors, or photographic enlargers or reducers, except projection, nesoi” Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ru2far2c Posted October 10, 2019 Share #49 Posted October 10, 2019 1 hour ago, Jeff S said: The tariffs apply to lenses, not cameras. Jeff I read it as cameras were included. If just includes lens only then it will push the up the prices for glass. How do you think it will affect the used market? I guess if I'm in the market for new lens better go for it before 18, Oct. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoppyman Posted October 10, 2019 Share #50 Posted October 10, 2019 (edited) On the original topic, here in Australia I have had the SL since its early availability. I was later irritated as I imagine other owners were too to see the price drop significantly. It seemed so un-Leica for the price to go down 🧐 Yesterday I checked again on availability of the SL Summicron 35, (still none) from the authorised dealer I use and saw that the SL selling price has dropped much further. Here now in fact the SL with the 24-90 is offered for about what the camera only originally sold for. In comparison, the Summilux M 35 ASPH now lists for about 50% more than originally while the 24-90 is about the same. Edited October 10, 2019 by hoppyman Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
frame-it Posted October 14, 2019 Share #51 Posted October 14, 2019 On 10/11/2019 at 5:35 AM, ru2far2c said: I read it as cameras were included. If just includes lens only then it will push the up the prices for glass. How do you think it will affect the used market? I guess if I'm in the market for new lens better go for it before 18, Oct. https://captureintegration.com/tariffs-that-will-affect-you-the-photographer/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Albertson Posted October 15, 2019 Share #52 Posted October 15, 2019 On 10/10/2019 at 1:35 PM, ru2far2c said: I read it as cameras were included. If just includes lens only then it will push the up the prices for glass. How do you think it will affect the used market? I guess if I'm in the market for new lens better go for it before 18, Oct. Are you planning to purchase from a US dealer? The tariffs due to go into effect on October 18 are levied on products imported into the US, not on products (lenses, in this case) exported from Germany to anywhere else. Depending on how much Leica USA and individual US dealers currently have in inventory, or on the way from Wetzlar, there likely won't be any immediate price increases after Friday. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ru2far2c Posted October 15, 2019 Share #53 Posted October 15, 2019 @frame-it Thanks for the link! @Chuck Albertson Yes, was looking to purchase before the tariff took place a new lens. Have reached out to couple dealers in the US and waiting for responses. The US market is closes market for me to purchase Leica gear. I get there more often other countries. Thanks I guess the other question would be how much it affect the second hand market in the US? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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