Leon Berg Posted August 14, 2021 Share #81 Posted August 14, 2021 (edited) Advertisement (gone after registration) vor 1 Stunde schrieb ianman: Not at all. It’s so refreshing to read about someone who is buying their dream “once in a lifetime” camera without constantly worrying about the resell value which makes no sense at all. It doesn't, right? It happen's with Leica as a brand, though, that you want to have it because it's superb build quality, the quality of lenses, the relatively small size.. and unfortunately it's also an collectors item... I try to free myself from that aspect, it's quite liberating.. But ladies and gentlemen.. something else happened in the meantime, complete change of plan 😂 The M-A is on my list and will be mine at one point, so happy, that Leica produces new RF cameras... but just yesterday I found a CLAed M4, looking like out of the box for a price I couldn't say no. It's again a thing with Leica and history.. you think you use the cameras of your favorite photographers and it makes you a better photographer, too 😂 ... in this case like Garry Winogrand. Since I would like to own and use two bodies anyways, I start with the more affordable one now, get used to the meterless body and will keep saving for the M-A, I definitively want/need/desire/crave for a new Leica body, too. Wonderful marketing. If I had their marketing, I'd be president by now. 😂 Here a photo I took with my MP and 35mm Lux Pre-Asph and which I intend to do more with the M4 and M-A, so you get an idea of my wannabe Winogrand or Winogrand inspired style Have a wonderful day y'all! EDIT: Seller didn't want to tell the truth and keep the camera last minute or sold it to a higher bidder, don't know.. he found out, he could make more from it. He had already promised me the camera and just claimed, his wife want's to keep it. That's also the sh*t that goes on with Leica.. people behave weirdly about it. THIS is a big plus, when buying a new camera, that no one talks about: you go into the store, you pick your new film camera -you take another mortgage if you have to or sell your furniture- BUT, you don't have to deal with these kind of people AND safe lots of time and research! I let this be a lesson to me... Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Edited August 14, 2021 by Leon Berg 2 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/300942-mp-vs-m-a/?do=findComment&comment=4256489'>More sharing options...
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a.noctilux Posted August 14, 2021 Share #82 Posted August 14, 2021 Leon, I don't quite understand the situation you lived. So you don't have the CLAed M4 , sorry for that. New M-A or MP may not be available when you want. Not as easy as you described, walking in a Leica dealer ...buy the M and be happy 😏, even when you have the money. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leon Berg Posted August 14, 2021 Share #83 Posted August 14, 2021 vor 9 Minuten schrieb a.noctilux: Leon, I don't quite understand the situation you lived. So you don't have the CLAed M4 , sorry for that. New M-A or MP may not be available when you want. Not as easy as you described, walking in a Leica dealer ...buy the M and be happy 😏, even when you have the money. Hahah, there are three examples I'd have access to! But yes, you are right, sometimes you have to wait for weeks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
a.noctilux Posted August 14, 2021 Share #84 Posted August 14, 2021 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Leon Berg said: Hahah, there are three examples I'd have access to! But yes, you are right, sometimes you have to wait for weeks Three new M-A ? fantastic if true Strange ! Edited August 14, 2021 by a.noctilux Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leon Berg Posted August 14, 2021 Share #85 Posted August 14, 2021 vor 3 Minuten schrieb a.noctilux: Three new M-A ? fantastic if true Strange ! Yes, indeed In three different stores though. But still, available! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
a.noctilux Posted August 14, 2021 Share #86 Posted August 14, 2021 My thinking (speculation ...) is : - this would be last batch of M-A ? - new film M (cheaper ?) wil be available soon ? - not that I need to buy M-A, if it was the case, i would not wait. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil_P Posted August 14, 2021 Share #87 Posted August 14, 2021 Advertisement (gone after registration) Yes, Leica Berlin have the black and silver chrome M/A's showing in stock. Had the black one in my basket a couple of times but.... with logic all of my own, this week decided finally on going for the silver MP instead! 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leon Berg Posted August 14, 2021 Share #88 Posted August 14, 2021 I called the Friends Stores now in Germany to Feind the right one for me to reserve it.. might buy it earlier .. If I had to and wanted to, I could buy 10 silver chrome ones now in Germany. Plenty left. So no worries Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leon Berg Posted August 14, 2021 Share #89 Posted August 14, 2021 Friends Stores = Leica Stores .. autocorrect... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
a.noctilux Posted August 14, 2021 Share #90 Posted August 14, 2021 On line store France has no silver M-A : M-A chrome argent Out of curiosity, I tried to order 3x M-A black chrome with succes (13,500€), ...order cancelled of course ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leon Berg Posted August 14, 2021 Share #91 Posted August 14, 2021 vor 3 Minuten schrieb a.noctilux: On line store France has no silver M-A : M-A chrome argent Out of curiosity, I tried to order 3x M-A black chrome with succes (13,500€), ...order cancelled of course ! I am a bit picky about serial numbers so I found myself one that I liked and reserved it. 😊 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
a.noctilux Posted August 14, 2021 Share #92 Posted August 14, 2021 Leon, Nice, so you can choose serial number, wonderful ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leon Berg Posted August 14, 2021 Share #93 Posted August 14, 2021 vor 10 Minuten schrieb a.noctilux: Leon, Nice, so you can choose serial number, wonderful ! They’re all the same now… except the last three .. 51 51 xxx like the 5151 in the beginning what makes you think that there will be a new cheaper version of a Leica M? I mean I heard about it, but is there proof or any rumors online? Very curious to know! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
a.noctilux Posted August 14, 2021 Share #94 Posted August 14, 2021 I bet that 51 is your number then ! Birth year ? In France you have anywhere "Pastis 51" for lucky drink 😇 ... New film M ? Maybe, or maybe not, I don't have any info. I don't even care because I do have what I want already and use for many years happily. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leon Berg Posted August 14, 2021 Share #95 Posted August 14, 2021 (edited) Good to know about the 51 in France People have a special connection to numbers in many cultures. They see something in them, it makes them feel good or bad about something. What are the cameras you use, if I may ask? I consider having an M4 next to the M-A. by the way: I am born 85 maybe an old soul 😄 Edited August 14, 2021 by Leon Berg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leon Berg Posted August 14, 2021 Share #96 Posted August 14, 2021 vor 5 Stunden schrieb a.noctilux: My thinking (speculation ...) is : - this would be last batch of M-A ? - new film M (cheaper ?) wil be available soon ? - not that I need to buy M-A, if it was the case, i would not wait. Here you mentioned it, that’s why I was curious. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
a.noctilux Posted August 14, 2021 Share #97 Posted August 14, 2021 (edited) 26 minutes ago, Leon Berg said: Good to know about the 51 in France People have a special connection to numbers in many cultures. They see something in them, it makes them feel good or bad about something. What are the cameras you use, if I may ask? I consider having an M4 next to the M-A. I always wonder why numeralogy is pseudoscientific but that is another story 🙃. Me ? I use what I have 😉. As side note, my first Leica was M4 so long time ago. Since then I had "broken by use" so many that I still have one as trophy ( not working M4, shutter fail ! ) and use other Leica Ms. My main film Ms are of course M-A one silver, one black for different lenses and/or films. Post #9 Edited August 14, 2021 by a.noctilux Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leon Berg Posted August 14, 2021 Share #98 Posted August 14, 2021 vor 6 Minuten schrieb a.noctilux: I always wonder why numeralogy is pseudoscientific but that is another story 🙃. Me ? I use what I have 😉. As side note, my first Leica was M4 so long time ago. Since then I had "broken by use" so many that I still has one as trophy ( not working M4 ! ) and use other Leica Ms. My main film Ms are of course M-A one silver, one black for different lenses and/or films. Good choice! yes, it’s pseudoscience, but still you have a feeling about it that is valid to your heart. And then feel good about the one I picked, and also it was the closest to my place, so that also counted 😄 M-A and M4 for me. And we will see what one day might join or leave. I think the combination of a new and an older is ok. And still cheaper than any digital body (new) of course you can spend thousands on film, paper and chemistry.. but this joy can’t be bought with digital (my opinion.. I know, different topic) i am happy with my choice. Limitation is good for me. People are just different. also the viewfinder of an MP doesn’t equal the one from M-A regarding the lines. Also the shutter Button. And also the overall feel of not being able to meter. I think this is very valuable, and comes from a privileged and luxurious position, to be able to live with Limitation. It’s a first world problem. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
a.noctilux Posted August 14, 2021 Share #99 Posted August 14, 2021 I use along film AND digital Ms. I can't choose one type as these are hobbies anyway, nothing important/vital ... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leon Berg Posted August 14, 2021 Share #100 Posted August 14, 2021 vor 7 Minuten schrieb a.noctilux: I use along film AND digital Ms. I can't choose one type as these are hobbies anyway, nothing important/vital ... I see, whatever you enjoy, it’s a wonderful hobby. oh, and it’s vital!!!! Always vital! 😂😄 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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