jrp Posted August 10, 2019 Share #1 Posted August 10, 2019 Advertisement (gone after registration) I have a couple of the Nissan i60 flashguns + commands in SL flavour (ie, 2x price). I assume that * they won't work with the Panasonic, since that uses the Olympus flash protocol * it's no use getting an Olympus flavour commander, as the that won't drive the SL firmware Nissins / Leica SL flashes * there are various Godox flashes in Olympus flavour that will work with the S1/R, but they won't work with the SL (all this is in TTL mode; I dare say that some functionality will be available in Manual mode). Has anyone worked through this in real life? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ron777 Posted August 10, 2019 Share #2 Posted August 10, 2019 Flashpoint/Godox AD200, as well as the 600's, combined with an Olympus/Panasonic Flashpoint/Godox Pro Radio trigger work well with the S1r and the Panasonic G9. The same units work with the Leica SL but require the Nikon version of the Flashpoint/Godox trigger. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrp Posted August 10, 2019 Author Share #3 Posted August 10, 2019 Wow. Thanks! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrp Posted August 10, 2019 Author Share #4 Posted August 10, 2019 I assume that the answer is the same for camera flashes as well as these studio lights? (Sorry I am not conversant with the Godox part numbers, which themselves seem to come in several variants, including for specific national markets; the difference between Pro, X2, X2, etc, escapes me.). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ron777 Posted August 10, 2019 Share #5 Posted August 10, 2019 24 minutes ago, jrp said: I assume that the answer is the same for camera flashes as well as these studio lights? (Sorry I am not conversant with the Godox part numbers, which themselves seem to come in several variants, including for specific national markets; the difference between Pro, X2, X2, etc, escapes me.). In general, the answer is, yes. I have a Flashpoint Zoom Li-ion R2 TTL that works well with the Panasonic S1R. Flashpoint is Adorama's Godox branded equipment and they are exactly the same, regardless of whether it's called Flashpoint or Godox. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ru2far2c Posted August 10, 2019 Share #6 Posted August 10, 2019 3 hours ago, ron777 said: Flashpoint/Godox AD200, as well as the 600's, combined with an Olympus/Panasonic Flashpoint/Godox Pro Radio trigger work well with the S1r and the Panasonic G9. The same units work with the Leica SL but require the Nikon version of the Flashpoint/Godox trigger. Are you using Flashpoint/Godox (n->Nikon) as dumb triggers or using them in TTL/HSS with the SL (601) in off camera flash situations? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ron777 Posted August 10, 2019 Share #7 Posted August 10, 2019 Advertisement (gone after registration) I no longer own an SL, but when I had I did not have occasion to check the operability of hss with the Flashpoint strobes. As for on camera flash, I had the Leica ...60 and was underwhelmed, especially with its TTL function. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sillbeers15 Posted August 11, 2019 Share #8 Posted August 11, 2019 14 hours ago, ron777 said: Flashpoint/Godox AD200, as well as the 600's, combined with an Olympus/Panasonic Flashpoint/Godox Pro Radio trigger work well with the S1r and the Panasonic G9. The same units work with the Leica SL but require the Nikon version of the Flashpoint/Godox trigger. The combination worked with TTL/HSS with S series but with Nikon trigger on SL, only manual mode will work. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ron777 Posted August 11, 2019 Share #9 Posted August 11, 2019 Honestly, I’ve never found TTL to be accurate with any camera /flash/strobe combination. In a studio situation I prefer to use manual, coupled with a flash meter. This approach never misses exposure. On camera flash is another story, and under those circumstances TTL and eventual exposure compensation can be of benefit, but I’ve had a lot of misses. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrp Posted August 11, 2019 Author Share #10 Posted August 11, 2019 My Nikon TTL was surprisingly good, for decades. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sillbeers15 Posted August 12, 2019 Share #11 Posted August 12, 2019 9 hours ago, ron777 said: Honestly, I’ve never found TTL to be accurate with any camera /flash/strobe combination. In a studio situation I prefer to use manual, coupled with a flash meter. This approach never misses exposure. On camera flash is another story, and under those circumstances TTL and eventual exposure compensation can be of benefit, but I’ve had a lot of misses. Only that you will miss out lots of fill flash applications outdoors in the day time. We pay so much for fast lens to create bokeh. This is so as to separate subject against background. Flash can be used the same way to bring attention to subject while background illumination be underexposed or enhance subject in environmental portraits.That is when HSS & TTL comes into play. Use flash creatively to enhance and not just indoors or studio just to document. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ron777 Posted August 12, 2019 Share #12 Posted August 12, 2019 I believe that you may have misunderstood the nature of my statement in re TTL. I referring to exposure accuracy and the lack there of. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sillbeers15 Posted August 12, 2019 Share #13 Posted August 12, 2019 1 hour ago, ron777 said: I believe that you may have misunderstood the nature of my statement in re TTL. I referring to exposure accuracy and the lack there of. Most of the newer TTLs are mostly reliable except occasional misbehaving. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ron777 Posted August 12, 2019 Share #14 Posted August 12, 2019 (edited) The Leica Flash 60 did not do well with TTL on the SL and the brand new Godox/Flashpoint Panasonic compatible does not perform well in TTL either on the S1R. Edited August 12, 2019 by ron777 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sillbeers15 Posted August 12, 2019 Share #15 Posted August 12, 2019 9 hours ago, ron777 said: The Leica Flash 60 did not do well with TTL on the SL and the brand new Godox/Flashpoint Panasonic compatible does not perform well in TTL either on the S1R. I do not have experience with the Godox and S1R as I do own any. As for Leica SF60, the TTL function behaved mostly with only problem of overheating after multiple shots as OCF (more output demanded) and just shuts down. Switching to Nissin MG10 as key light has problem resolved. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ron777 Posted August 12, 2019 Share #16 Posted August 12, 2019 Well, sold the SF60 along with my SL. However as fill they work just fine, but for primary illumination in low light I found TTL to miss in terms of intensity. Same for the Godox/Flashpoint. Or perhaps the issue is operator incompetence. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlashGordonPhotography Posted August 17, 2019 Share #17 Posted August 17, 2019 On 8/11/2019 at 2:33 AM, jrp said: I have a couple of the Nissan i60 flashguns + commands in SL flavour (ie, 2x price). I assume that * they won't work with the Panasonic, since that uses the Olympus flash protocol * it's no use getting an Olympus flavour commander, as the that won't drive the SL firmware Nissins / Leica SL flashes * there are various Godox flashes in Olympus flavour that will work with the S1/R, but they won't work with the SL (all this is in TTL mode; I dare say that some functionality will be available in Manual mode). Has anyone worked through this in real life? Yes. Gordon 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrp Posted September 14, 2019 Author Share #18 Posted September 14, 2019 Well I must confess that I am completely mystified by the Godox range. http://www.godox.com/EN/Products.html I can see no R2 trigger listed. The V1 and the other flashguns listed there seem incomparable (the GNs are listed at different distances and zoom ranges, eg, while others such as the AD200 Pro units quote Ws power). The No doubt there is method in the madness, but I have yet to uncover it. I have fairly portable Elinchrom flashes, but they need a massive battery, which is often overkill for what I need, which is 2-3 off-camera flashguns to light up a room. My Nikon flashes achieved this without much effort for many years. The Nissin i60 flashes are a bit weedy by comparison. I need something that works with the Panasonic S1R. Any pointers, pls? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrp Posted September 14, 2019 Author Share #19 Posted September 14, 2019 After googling a bit further, I can see that the options might be 2 x AD200 Pro (the AD200 doesn't seem to be Panasonic TTL compatible) and an X Olympus/Panasonic trigger (X-Pro or X-Pro-2, if it exists, or X1T-O) 2 x AD200 Pro + V1-O as on-camera flash/trigger 2-3 V1-O 2-3 of the older models, although who knows what they are her in Bligh Recommendations? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlashGordonPhotography Posted September 14, 2019 Share #20 Posted September 14, 2019 The Godox site can be a challenge.... The AD200 does TTL with the Olympus triggers. The specs sheet predates the *O* triggers but it definitely works. I use them often. Essentially all the current WITSTRO range will work as well as most of the on camera flash units with 2.4khz triggers. The very old 360 units need a 24khz USB adaptor to function as they don’t have one inbiult. The new ones do. The originals had no TTL capability so are easy to isdentify. The XPro triggers are vastly easier to use than the X1T triggers. The AD200, 360 and 600 have adaptors for Bowens accessories. Maybe the others too but I don’t own those. I have a pair of AD600’s, 360N’s, AD200’s and a couple hot shoe flashes. All work together with the O trigger (TTL and manual on the S1R) and in manual mode (90% of my use) with the SL. I have a Nikon, Sony Fuji and Olympus XPro adaptor and all work together, depending on which system I’m shooting with. I have a pair of SF60’s and a trigger for when I need TTL for the SL. When off camera I just use a twin flash adaptor on a stand to get more power rather than use a single unit. If I need more then I’m going manual anyway. Gordon 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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