moikle Posted July 26, 2007 Share #1 Posted July 26, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) I've really been bitten by the old bug can't stop photographing the things now. M8, 1/500 @ f5.6 ISO 320. 90mm f4 Elmar. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted July 26, 2007 Posted July 26, 2007 Hi moikle, Take a look here Freightliner. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
ctb Posted July 26, 2007 Share #2 Posted July 26, 2007 Best we all club together and buy you your very own anorak Nice shot, I used to work for a shipping company that uses Freightliner a lot, even had a new engine named after the md's father. MSC Mediterranean shipping company was the shipping line Chris Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andybarton Posted July 26, 2007 Share #3 Posted July 26, 2007 Ian Allan eat your heart out Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
moikle Posted July 27, 2007 Author Share #4 Posted July 27, 2007 [quote=Best we all club together and buy you your very own anorak Wow thanks, light grey with hood size XL please! Mike Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamey Posted July 27, 2007 Share #5 Posted July 27, 2007 Nicely framed and cuptured Mike. I don't see many shots of trains taken with Leica M's. .... So lets have more PLEASE. Cheers. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
moikle Posted July 28, 2007 Author Share #6 Posted July 28, 2007 I don't see many shots of trains taken with Leica M's. .... So lets have more PLEASE. Cheers. Oh don't tempt me. Mike Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cardinal Posted July 28, 2007 Share #7 Posted July 28, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) Mike, nice shot those freight trains in the UK sure are short compared to USA freight trains. I met a guy from England not too long ago telling me how short their freight trains are in his country while he was waiting to photograph an Amtrak train. Interesting. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
moikle Posted July 29, 2007 Author Share #8 Posted July 29, 2007 Mike, nice shot those freight trains in the UK sure are short compared to USA freight trains. Bill, My son is a Signalling Engineer on the UK rail network and according to him the longest we can expect is 800 metres, small fry indeed. One day I will get myself to the USA just to photograph those enormous trains. Problem is how do I sell it to the wife? Mike Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
biglouis Posted July 29, 2007 Share #9 Posted July 29, 2007 Mike I empathise. I often see the freightliners going through Camden Town, where the tracks are raised above the road for several miles. It can be an awesome sight. I wish I could work out an approximate schedule because I'd be tempted to try and capture the sight. LouisB Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andybarton Posted July 29, 2007 Share #10 Posted July 29, 2007 There are probably two (at least) reasons why we have shorter freight trains. 1 - Not much gets sent by rail any more 2 - Too many curves on the lines 3 - Land is too expensive to make the marshalling yards big enough to take very long trains. OK - that's 3 reasons for starters. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlancasterd Posted July 29, 2007 Share #11 Posted July 29, 2007 There are probably two (at least) reasons why we have shorter freight trains. 1 - Not much gets sent by rail any more 2 - Too many curves on the lines 3 - Land is too expensive to make the marshalling yards big enough to take very long trains. OK - that's 3 reasons for starters. Sorry Andy, but you've obviously been reading those British newspapers that can never say anything good about railways... :) 1. Freight traffic (especially containers, swap-bodies and bulk materials such as aggregates) has been increasing for some time and would increase faster if there weren't artificial restraints like the excessively high charges for using the Chunnel. In Europe, the 'rolling motorway' (trucks on flatcars) is becoming more and more common especially for long distance traffic that has to cross Swiss or Austrian territory - it's one of the reasons that new 'base-level' tunnels are being built under the Gotthard, Lotschberg and Brenner passes. 2. Curves make no difference. The major limitation on train size is the length of either passing loops (especially on single lines) or reception sidings. Freights in UK and Europe also have to be able to accelerate quickly and move fast (see below). 3. European railways are fundamentally different from those in the US in that their core business is passengers rather than freight. Passenger trains are constantly being devloped to travel faster and faster (ICEs, Eurostars and TGVs can do nearly 200mph in normal service) and freight trains have to be able to keep out of their way. Relatively short fast freight trains are therefore the norm nowadays rather than big slow ones - although I saw some quite impressive freights batting along the main lines in southern Germany at around 80/90mph during my recent visit. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
moikle Posted July 29, 2007 Author Share #12 Posted July 29, 2007 Andy, I gather it is not the curves but the lack of "lay by" facilities to put the slower freight trains on so that they do not interfere with the running of the much faster passenger trains. This problem was first seen in steam days when the LMS used enormous Beyer locomotives to haul coal from the north to London it evidentially caused chaos. (Puts on anorak and retires). Mike Edit: What John Dobson says is spot on. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamey Posted July 30, 2007 Share #13 Posted July 30, 2007 Hello Gentleman. As a Professional Railwayman may I put some input in this interesting topic. Some above points are correct, however one of the reasons that European Freight,Goods or Cargo trains are not long and heavy, is because of it's coupling. The British type ( 3 link) which is used throughout Europe has a limited amount or strenght, and depending on the gradiant to what tonnage it can haul. I think the limit is around 1000 tonnes. The American Auto or Knuckle type coupler, same used in Australia can withstand far greater loads, depending on size of Auto coupler is up to 10,000 tons, = big and heavy trains. In general, short and fast super freighters are what customers want, not 20 mph slugs. Hope that helps. Ken. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamey Posted July 30, 2007 Share #14 Posted July 30, 2007 A quick view of the two Couplers. In the European version, the coupler is designed for one man to lift it over and hook it. The Auto or knuckle version plus it's drew gear, you need a fork lifter to remove it. Depending on what version such as Passenger or Freight, the couple weighs around a ton. Cheers. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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