thighslapper Posted March 16, 2019 Author Share #61 Posted March 16, 2019 Advertisement (gone after registration) Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 2 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/294926-panasonic-s1-s1r-available-next-week/?do=findComment&comment=3703747'>More sharing options...
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thighslapper Posted March 16, 2019 Author Share #63 Posted March 16, 2019 100% crops give the game away ..... Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/294926-panasonic-s1-s1r-available-next-week/?do=findComment&comment=3703752'>More sharing options...
caissa Posted March 16, 2019 Share #64 Posted March 16, 2019 I recognize the dog, but apart from that ... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thighslapper Posted March 16, 2019 Author Share #65 Posted March 16, 2019 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/294926-panasonic-s1-s1r-available-next-week/?do=findComment&comment=3703754'>More sharing options...
thighslapper Posted March 16, 2019 Author Share #66 Posted March 16, 2019 (edited) Despite being an OOC JPG with some additional basic processing the SR1 file looks identical to the Leica DNG. WB is as shot on both. The Leica is a bit over sharpened for forum conversion (looks ok before posting) and is seems impossible to do sharpening to the SR1 JPG that improves things. So much for the 'Leica look" ....... Assuming RAW conversions will be better, the ultimate image quality and resolution from the SR1 should be a worthwhile improvement. Edited March 16, 2019 by thighslapper 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaemono Posted March 16, 2019 Share #67 Posted March 16, 2019 Advertisement (gone after registration) I'd keep the SL, send the S1R back, and wait for the SL2. 😁 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott kirkpatrick Posted March 16, 2019 Share #68 Posted March 16, 2019 (edited) 22 hours ago, thighslapper said: Nope ...... none of the current RAW converters (tried LR, PS, Luminar, ON1, Alien Skin) or Adobe DNG converter work ....... even converting to TIF from silkypics will not process ..... it shows the embedded preview in LR but trying any processing at all results in a multicoloured screen of mush. Nor does Preview with the latest Mac OS work. I downloaded an imaging resource lab test file and also failed to read it with Capture One 12 and with AccuRaw. I'll ask Sandy McG when Accuraw will read them. edit: I can view the Q2 file (a DNG) by just highlighting the file in Finder and pressing the space bar, but that doesn't work for the .RW2 file from the Pana. Edited March 16, 2019 by scott kirkpatrick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ron777 Posted March 16, 2019 Share #69 Posted March 16, 2019 45 minutes ago, Chaemono said: I'd keep the SL, send the S1R back, and wait for the SL2. 😁 Why? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrp Posted March 16, 2019 Share #70 Posted March 16, 2019 As you say, the SL lenses seem to work perfectly with the SR1 (although you don't get both IBIS and lens stabilisation at the same time, for those lenses that have IS). Perhaps I am not as picky as you, but the 28mm and 35mm M Summiluxes seem to work well enough for my purposes (which includes manageable weight). Not sure what the Auto ISO does; it seems to crank up the ISO to satisfy at least 1/2f shutter speed. Shooting at ISO 6400 with a wide open Summilux seems a bit extravagant, but the pictures are much cleaner than I would get with the SL. (And the S1 would be cleaner still.). Still manually turning ISO down to 1600 and shutter speeds nearer 2/f results in slightly cleaner picture and still great sharpness, paying testament to the IBIS. I have not yet figured out the optimal focus / af settings; the joystick and the control wheel / NSEW buttons are, mechanically, quite poor. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaemono Posted March 16, 2019 Share #71 Posted March 16, 2019 Because the pictures posted look the same. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrp Posted March 16, 2019 Share #72 Posted March 16, 2019 I'm also enjoying the eccentric Silky Pix SE. It is clearly a capable program, under the hood. The developer doesn't, however, seem to be very interested in using the prog in real life. I thought that students would have been taught that the number of clicks to get to a thing, and do it, was a metric that mattered. Perhaps I am being unfair. The software is free and clearly intended for batch processing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrp Posted March 16, 2019 Share #73 Posted March 16, 2019 (edited) And here's a sooc ISO 3200 JPEG, off-white balance and all. There is a Silky Pix Twilight WB setting that makes this look a bit more natural. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Lamborghini, London, United Kingdom, Blackwall, England by Edited March 16, 2019 by jrp 2 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Lamborghini, London, United Kingdom, Blackwall, England by ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/294926-panasonic-s1-s1r-available-next-week/?do=findComment&comment=3703834'>More sharing options...
ron777 Posted March 16, 2019 Share #74 Posted March 16, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Chaemono said: Because the pictures posted look the same. They're JPG's reduced for the Internet, but I'd bet that a 16x20 or larger print would show the difference. Edited March 16, 2019 by ron777 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrp Posted March 16, 2019 Share #75 Posted March 16, 2019 (edited) Same thing, with a bit of Silky Pix tweaking: Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Lamborghini PS: I can only spell Lamborghini by reading it from the bonnet shield... at f1.4 ... Edited March 16, 2019 by jrp 2 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Lamborghini PS: I can only spell Lamborghini by reading it from the bonnet shield... at f1.4 ... ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/294926-panasonic-s1-s1r-available-next-week/?do=findComment&comment=3703853'>More sharing options...
CharlesL Posted March 16, 2019 Share #76 Posted March 16, 2019 With a white-balance probe on the vehicle: Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/294926-panasonic-s1-s1r-available-next-week/?do=findComment&comment=3703877'>More sharing options...
caissa Posted March 16, 2019 Share #77 Posted March 16, 2019 (edited) Temporary solution for some newly released cameras: A beta release of version 11.2.1 DNG Converter has been made available. It now enables the conversion of raws (.rw2) to DNGs for Lumix S1 and Lumix S1R. https://feedback.photoshop.com/photoshop_family/topics/dng-converter-11-2-1-beta-released-for-interim-new-camera-support Edited March 16, 2019 by caissa Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thighslapper Posted March 16, 2019 Author Share #78 Posted March 16, 2019 Great ! ....... exactly what I wanted ..... I'll give it a try ... thanks for the link. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
caissa Posted March 16, 2019 Share #79 Posted March 16, 2019 4 hours ago, caissa said: How could I find out if XnViewMP works with the real raw data or just with the embedded jpgs ? What would be the size of these jpgs ? Is it possible to extract them and just leave the "real" raw data in the .rw2 file ? The downloaded rw2 files are 69 MB in size (e.g. 69.9 or 69.7). Assuming the embedded jpgs are about 20 MB (20.5) this leaves about 49 MB for the real data. Is this possible (and does it fit to the image parameters ?) ? By the way, the images look a bit soft, so I thought they could really be raws. But now I am rather puzzled ... photographyblog.com has clearly two different download areas for jpgs and for raws. Why would they add an embedded jpg (or is it mandatory) ? (causing double downloads ?) I can now answer my own questions. XnViewMP was not able to work with the .rw2 files from S1/R cameras, it only displayed the embedded jpg (size about 7MB). Maybe there will be an update for that. But it was able to work with the converted DNG files (size about 51MB from rw2 file of about 69MB) and it looks ok to me. (I use raws only very infrequently, so cannot say how much it is lacking compared to professional (adobe) tools.) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrp Posted March 16, 2019 Share #80 Posted March 16, 2019 1 hour ago, CharlesL said: With a white-balance probe on the vehicle: Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! I'll wait for Lightroom, etc. It is called the "blue hour" for a reason and this seem to have a bit too much magenta for my taste, Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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