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andybarton

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leicamann

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What:confused:

 

I would do what I am doing..set up a savings account , just for your equipment and save up, bit by bit..thats what I am doing. I fully intend to get one and I am sure it will eventually pay for itself..the difficulty is making the transition. I still use tons of film and will do so until its impossible..to do so..until then..I am saving up . Like many people , I don't buy right away, the product always goes through "teething issues" and later they are slowly resolved.

 

Regards, Leica..Mann:)

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One reson, why I did not buy the DMR yet is the damn price.

 

If you pay for a leica lens you can be sure that this thing is a hell of a lens in ten years too.

But what about the DMR in ten years and will I have the money to buy a new electronic toy then ?

 

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dkCambridgeshire

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No reason what so ever.

 

You're a bit like someone on the high-board at a swimming pool, you're slowly edging nearer and nearer to the edge wondering if it's worth it, but knowing all the time that you're going to jump at some point. :-)

 

That is how I feel ... but the 'at some point' as far as the DMR goes is still some time away

 

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graeme_clarke

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Andy - some thoughts that might help convince you not to get one:

 

It adds a lot of weight and bulk to your R8 - so much so that you cannot carry it as far and you'll need a bigger bag for it (probably a rucksack type so more expense);

Its physical size makes it anything but a discrete bit of kit - so you'll stand out like a sore thumb wherever people are around - is that what you want;

It will make you want to take even more pictures, so if your good lady tolerates you carrying a camera when you go visiting together, as when on holiday, it will stretch her tolerance limit pretty substantially - how far can it go?

You will take many many more pictures - so think of all the time needed to collect and sort the RAW images, tweak them, then process them, re select the best, then manipulate your selection in photoshop or lightroom;

And, all these images have to be stored so you will need more hard drive space a good DVD RW drive and DVD/CDs (more expense), and loads of time to make the backups.

 

All in all have you the money and especially the time, can you work-out to develop the stength to carry it, and do you want to be seen with a great big bit of kit?

 

I have to say I haven't regretted buying mine for a moment - and although some of these comments are tongue in cheek, they do have a real foundation, and I did have to quadruple my hard drive size.

 

All the best,

 

Graeme

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dhsimmonds

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Hi Andy

 

I shouldn't be posting this cos I can't help you! The DMR was designed just for you.....you have an R8 and R glass so that only leaves financial or marital reasons not to add the DMR. No one here can possibly dissuade you now!

 

I got mine only 10 days ago, it is no bigger than the Canon 16mpx/12 bit dslr, in fact I think it is a bit smaller. It is very comfortable and nicely balanced to use with the leather hand grip and 3 alternative shutter releases. The image quality is mind blowing..that 16bit back really works well with Leica glass.

 

I got mine courtesy of the Leica promo offer as I was starting from scratch having no Leica R glass or body. BTW the deal worked very well and extremely efficiently; I received my £700 back from Leica UK yesterday.

 

Go on buy her a hat or something to ease marital bliss!

 

Cheers, Dave

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andybarton

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Thanks for that Dave.

 

My wife is getting a new car, when Volkswagen can be bothered to extract their collective digits from whatever orifices they have stuck them and made the darn thing, so that may offer some "compensation" :)

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martinb

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I think there are some reasons not to buy it..

 

1. Photokina is here very soon. Let's see what's coming before investing. It may also be a good idea to wait to buy DMR's after Photokina because I think we're going to see the price go down.

 

2. Do you shoot for stock agencies? They may want more resolution. On the other side it's easy to interpolate these files up to 17.5 mp and still have very good quality. At least if you use ISO 100-200.

 

3. Even though I like it I still think it's not the most ergonomical body.

 

4. Heavy and big.

 

5. There have been a lot of issues with DMR's. Especially along with the R8.

 

6. THE PRICE!

 

7. Can be hard to focus but with the new Brightscreen magnifier it's probably not a problem at all.

 

 

So that's why I think you should not buy it. I'm not negative to the DMR in any way. I would have a lot more positives than negatives if you asked for that.

 

Cheers,

 

Martin

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andybarton

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I think there are some reasons not to buy it..

 

1. Photokina is here very soon. Let's see what's coming before investing. It may also be a good idea to wait to buy DMR's after Photokina because I think we're going to see the price go down.

 

Good point.

 

2. Do you shoot for stock agencies? They may want more resolution. On the other side it's easy to interpolate these files up to 17.5 mp and still have very good quality. At least if you use ISO 100-200.

 

I only shoot for me having made the princely sum of £4.61 through photography in the last 30 years :)

 

3. Even though I like it I still think it's not the most ergonomical body.

 

Maybe - I have not held or used one, since they are not normally "stock" items and are therefore a leap of faith, to a certain extent.

 

4. Heavy and big.

 

See above

 

5. There have been a lot of issues with DMR's. Especially along with the R8.

 

That DOES concern me, I have to say. I'd be pretty miffed if my R8 had to go back to Germany again so soon after having come back...

 

6. THE PRICE!

 

Yes - but it has to be looked at as an up-front investment in film for three years... ;)

 

7. Can be hard to focus but with the new Brightscreen magnifier it's probably not a problem at all.

 

See above - not as hard as I find an M to focus, I would wager :)

 

So that's why I think you should not buy it. I'm not negative to the DMR in any way. I would have a lot more positives than negatives if you asked for that.

 

Thanks - I can think of a few positives myself... :D

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I think there are some reasons not to buy it..

 

2. Do you shoot for stock agencies? They may want more resolution. On the other side it's easy to interpolate these files up to 17.5 mp and still have very good quality. At least if you use ISO 100-200.

 

5. There have been a lot of issues with DMR's. Especially along with the R8.

 

7. Can be hard to focus but with the new Brightscreen magnifier it's probably not a problem at all.

 

Would want more resolution? My agency was blown away by the quality of the native DMR files. Many agencies, including mine, accept IDMKII files which are 8MP.

 

I have the R8 and there has never been an issue of any kind. The only issue I heard of with respect to some very early R8 models is that the camera firmware needed to be updated. Furthermore, I have also not experienced focusing issues since I have had my DMR from October 2005 onwards.

 

BTW, did you finally get to handle a DMR at a dealer's where you are in Sweden?

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Would want more resolution? My agency was blown away by the quality of the native DMR files. Many agencies, including mine, accept IDMKII files which are 8MP.

 

I have the R8 and there has never been an issue of any kind. The only issue I heard of with respect to some very early R8 models is that the camera firmware needed to be updated. Furthermore, I have also not experienced focusing issues since I have had my DMR from October 2005 onwards.

 

BTW, did you finally get to handle a DMR at a dealer's where you are in Sweden?

 

Conrad,

I said "may want" not want. And I also said the files interpolate very well.

Glad to hear that there hasn't been any issues with your camera but I've heard from many owners who have had big or small problems.

I got a demo of the R9/DMR in Denmark.

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I could never give you a reason not to buy one , sorry. Simply the best i have used in the 15 years shooting digital and some folks maybe selling there 2nd one to get a M8 just need to be patient. Now were is that grin symbol when you need it. seriously I have considered selling my 2nd DMR R/9 but i am still debating this. :D :D :D

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> I want reasons NOT to buy it...

Since you made a fashion statement about your credit cards:-

 

- make decisions that all your pictures coming out will never ever be printed larger than your avatar is

- sell all your R8 and R9 to make sure you don't hv. any further need to ask this questions anymore

- switch to M

- get rid of your Mac or PC so you cannot glance at the results of your pixel crap

- get your wife a Volkswagon Phaeton or Touareg instead of a Lupo -OR-

- get your wife a Lupo instead of Touareg and then ask HER why not buy a DMR.

 

Last, do not ask HERE...

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> I want reasons NOT to buy it...

Since you made a fashion statement about your credit cards:-

 

- make decisions that all your pictures coming out will never ever be printed larger than your avatar is

- sell all your R8 and R9 to make sure you don't hv. any further need to ask this questions anymore

- switch to M

- get rid of your Mac or PC so you cannot glance at the results of your pixel crap

- get your wife a Volkswagon Phaeton or Touareg instead of a Lupo -OR-

- get your wife a Lupo instead of Touareg and then ask HER why not buy a DMR.

 

Last, do not ask HERE...

 

OOOhhh errrrrr

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telyt

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I am trying to scan some Kodachrome this evening... painful, even with the help of a test slide from our old friend John Mead.

 

A deposit will go down on the DMR tomorrow, I think, subject to what her indoors has to say later...

 

:o

 

Andy, my SWMBO threatened to dismember me if I didn't buy the DMR. Think KII color quality with much more dynamic range and there you have it: DMR.

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> I want reasons NOT to buy it...

Since you made a fashion statement about your credit cards:-

 

- make decisions that all your pictures coming out will never ever be printed larger than your avatar is

- sell all your R8 and R9 to make sure you don't hv. any further need to ask this questions anymore

- switch to M

- get rid of your Mac or PC so you cannot glance at the results of your pixel crap

- get your wife a Volkswagon Phaeton or Touareg instead of a Lupo -OR-

- get your wife a Lupo instead of Touareg and then ask HER why not buy a DMR.

 

Last, do not ask HERE...

 

 

Should there have been a smiley on that reply, or am I missing something?

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