farnz Posted February 9, 2019 Share #21 Posted February 9, 2019 Advertisement (gone after registration) They each have a unique serial number or did you mean a different model number from the standard lenses? Pete. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted February 9, 2019 Posted February 9, 2019 Hi farnz, Take a look here Black Chrome 50mm APO-Summicron . I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
pedaes Posted February 9, 2019 Share #22 Posted February 9, 2019 (edited) 5 hours ago, colint544 said: Leica seem to be moving away from making chromed brass variants of their lenses. All the new ones are aluminium barrels anodised either silver or black. Probably saves them money compared to manufacturing both a brass version and a chrome version. Brass and black paint are becoming the preserve of more expensive special editions. That said, a quick glance at the Red Dot Cameras page shows them advertising as new the 50mm Summilux ASPH in good old chromed brass. I know the new silver lenses are anodised aluminium, but where did you see that the chromed brass 50mm Summilux was discontinued? As far as 'moving away' is concerned , the 28mm Summaron-M is of course chromed brass. Edited February 9, 2019 by pedaes Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flu Posted February 9, 2019 Share #23 Posted February 9, 2019 17 minutes ago, farnz said: They each have a unique serial number or did you mean a different model number from the standard lenses? Pete. Apart from the serial number, limited edition bodies and lenses will usually have another number engraved onto them. For example, if there are suppose to be 300 units, there will be an engraving with 1/300, 2/300, 3/300 and so on all the way to 300/300. It just helps keep the manufacturers honest about actual production numbers. It's not just Leica, every manufacturer cheats if the numbers aren't individually engraved. Another trick used by other manufacturers that I've seen is to engrave a (1 of 300) on every copy and not actually counting the sequential numbers. This method doesn't really count either in my book. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
farnz Posted February 9, 2019 Share #24 Posted February 9, 2019 Ah, that number - I understand now. Pete. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alan.y Posted February 9, 2019 Share #25 Posted February 9, 2019 10 minutes ago, Flu said: Apart from the serial number, limited edition bodies and lenses will usually have another number engraved onto them. For example, if there are suppose to be 300 units, there will be an engraving with 1/300, 2/300, 3/300 and so on all the way to 300/300. It just helps keep the manufacturers honest about actual production numbers. It's not just Leica, every manufacturer cheats if the numbers aren't individually engraved. Another trick used by other manufacturers that I've seen is to engrave a (1 of 300) on every copy and not actually counting the sequential numbers. This method doesn't really count either in my book. Does the black chrome Summilux-M 50mm asph come with this engraving? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted February 9, 2019 Share #26 Posted February 9, 2019 The number 9,595 should keep it relatively limited, I would guess. Jeff 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flu Posted February 9, 2019 Share #27 Posted February 9, 2019 Advertisement (gone after registration) 12 minutes ago, alan.y said: Does the black chrome Summilux-M 50mm asph come with this engraving? It does not, which is why there was a thread on this very forum about it awhile back discussing this very issue and how Leica seemingly continues to produce this lens even though it's suppose to be limited to 500 units. The items recently that I know of with this engraving are the Black or Silver LHSA 50 apo, the Titanium 50 APO, Titanium M240P body, Titanium 28 cron, Zagato M10body, and Zagato 35mm lux. I'm sure there are more items than I'm listing here, but not that much more - typically found in the Special edition lens and body sets. Strangely enough, the Red 262 and red 50 apo do not even have the engraving - shocking IMO. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
farnz Posted February 9, 2019 Share #28 Posted February 9, 2019 I've just inspected my black chrome 50 Summilux and I can confirm that it does not have a n/500 engraving (which is probably why I wasn't aware that other limited edition lenses do). Pete. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IkarusJohn Posted February 10, 2019 Share #29 Posted February 10, 2019 I suspect, in Leica reasoning, there's a difference between a limited edition (Zagato, M Edition 60 etc) and a limited run ... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
derleicaman Posted February 10, 2019 Share #30 Posted February 10, 2019 I cannot speak to lack of a limited series engraving for the new black chrome 50 APO. I did specify the special limited series numbers to be engraved on the LHSA lenses. It is quite subtle, but still there, as is the LHSA logo. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
budjames Posted February 10, 2019 Share #31 Posted February 10, 2019 I purchased the Summicron 50mm APO from Ken Hansen about a month ago. I also own the Summilux 50 and Noctilux 50. My initial impressions of the 50 APO is OMG! It's small, light, easy to focus and the built-in lens hood is well executed. The IQ is fantastic. The downside is that this lens is super expensive. "Buy once, cry once!" Regards, Bud James Please check out my fine art and travel photography at www.budjames.photography or on Instagram at www.instagram.com/budjamesphoto. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mradey Posted February 10, 2019 Share #32 Posted February 10, 2019 On 2/7/2019 at 6:16 PM, mmradman said: Maybe foreign visitors snap up once GBP plummets after 29 March. Yawn.... . . . . . . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wattsy Posted February 11, 2019 Share #33 Posted February 11, 2019 (edited) On 2/10/2019 at 12:36 AM, IkarusJohn said: I suspect, in Leica reasoning, there's a difference between a limited edition (Zagato, M Edition 60 etc) and a limited run ... That might be so, John, but I recall Leica (at least the marketing department) being clear in the original announcement in 2015 that this lens (and the 35 Summicron in black chrome) were limited to 500 pieces each. I can't find the original blurb on Leica's website but this sales blurb from David Farkas (not somebody known to deviate from the official Leica line) supports my recollection. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Edited February 11, 2019 by wattsy 2 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/294085-black-chrome-50mm-apo-summicron/?do=findComment&comment=3682430'>More sharing options...
IkarusJohn Posted February 11, 2019 Share #34 Posted February 11, 2019 Yes, that was my recollection too, Ian. Just trying to drive demand, I guess. Are you still happy with your black chrome Summilux? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wattsy Posted February 12, 2019 Share #35 Posted February 12, 2019 13 hours ago, IkarusJohn said: Yes, that was my recollection too, Ian. Just trying to drive demand, I guess. Are you still happy with your black chrome Summilux? I didn’t buy one. I bought the 35 instead. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rungroj Suppagarn Posted February 14, 2019 Share #36 Posted February 14, 2019 I think 28mm summaron matt black is a very nice len but it look like ms-optical... So I stay with my silver one Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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