carstenw Posted July 19, 2007 Share #21 Posted July 19, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) Chris, the Tele-Elmar doesn't have goggles, does it? That is the Elmarit versions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted July 19, 2007 Posted July 19, 2007 Hi carstenw, Take a look here M8 + 135 Apo Telyt rocks. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
chris_tribble Posted July 19, 2007 Author Share #22 Posted July 19, 2007 Jaap - not redundant. It's a lovely image and I think makes it easier to see the connection from this thread to the whole "what's the M8 for?"question. While agree that some of the M8's greatest strengths come out when shooting wide, and one of its best applications is discrete reportage, it's much more than that. Because of lens and image quality the M8 is a legitimate landscape and architectural photography tool. Because of the accuracy of the range finder and the quality of lenses, the M8 can also be used for formal and informal portraiture and for sports and wildlife. It doesn't REPLACE anything, but for me, it ensures that I'm better placed to get more publication quality shots simply because the camera goes around with me much more than my DSLR kit. Which set up do you walk out of the house with on the off chance that something might turn up - a series 1 Canon / DMR / pro Nikon DSLR + 28-70 // 70-200 or the M8 and a couple of lenses? I know what I chose. Best Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_tribble Posted July 19, 2007 Author Share #23 Posted July 19, 2007 Chris, the Tele-Elmar doesn't have goggles, does it? That is the Elmarit versions. Carsten - wasn't sure... don't think I've ever handled one or the other... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
carstenw Posted July 19, 2007 Share #24 Posted July 19, 2007 The old Tele-Elmar is a tapering little f/4 lens dating back a bit, quite compact, with a removable optical unit for insertion into the Visoflex, whereas the Elmarits are quite chunky, heavy, with built-in goggles. http://www.theclassiccamera.com/Picts/Stock_1064000000001.jpg Objectif LEICA Elmarit 135 mm f/2,8 (1963-1973) Objectif LEICA Elmarit 135 mm f/2,8 (1973-1997) There does seem to be a newer Tele-Elmar, though I don't know if that is the one Jaap means. It also doesn't have goggles. Objectif LEICA Tele-Elmar-M 135 mm f/4 (1992-1998) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted July 19, 2007 Share #25 Posted July 19, 2007 Mine is the new one, which is the lens that immediately pre-dates the Apo. It was made in two versions, one the "old style" with removable hood and one in modern-look which looks a lot like the current lens. The optics are identical on both versions. I have the Mk1. The old Tele-Elmar is a tapering little f/4 lens dating back a bit, quite compact, with a removable optical unit for insertion into the Visoflex, whereas the Elmarits are quite chunky, heavy, with built-in goggles. http://www.theclassiccamera.com/Picts/Stock_1064000000001.jpg Objectif LEICA Elmarit 135 mm f/2,8 (1963-1973) Objectif LEICA Elmarit 135 mm f/2,8 (1973-1997) There does seem to be a newer Tele-Elmar, though I don't know if that is the one Jaap means. It also doesn't have goggles. Objectif LEICA Tele-Elmar-M 135 mm f/4 (1992-1998) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricC Posted July 19, 2007 Share #26 Posted July 19, 2007 Mine is the new one, which is the lens that immediately pre-dates the Apo. It was made in two versions, one the "old style" with removable hood and one in modern-look which looks a lot like the current lens. The optics are identical on both versions. I have the Mk1. I have just bought the MkII, [the one that looks identical to the Apo Asph 3.4 lens] after seeing the images posted here. :D Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_tribble Posted July 19, 2007 Author Share #27 Posted July 19, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) Hey - may be we're starting a tele-M8 group... be great to see any new work as it emerges - particularly interested to hear how you manage focusing on distant objects... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
innerimager Posted July 19, 2007 Share #28 Posted July 19, 2007 did you now, Eric? Congratulations! Hope you have a visoflex and bellows to really get he most out of it. ;>) best....Peter Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted July 19, 2007 Share #29 Posted July 19, 2007 Hey - may be we're starting a tele-M8 group... be great to see any new work as it emerges - particularly interested to hear how you manage focusing on distant objects... My technique for moving objects: Pre-focus on the expected spot. Watch the object as it moves into the viewfinder. Follow-focus minimally with small taps left and right. Release a few milliseconds before it flies into the focal plane. And- use the magnifier.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
howardeisemann Posted July 19, 2007 Share #30 Posted July 19, 2007 M8 with 1936 Hektor 135/4.5. JPEG directly from M8. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/29203-m8-135-apo-telyt-rocks/?do=findComment&comment=309722'>More sharing options...
innerimager Posted July 19, 2007 Share #31 Posted July 19, 2007 lovely, Howard! Anyone got an older 135? ;>) best...Peter Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_tribble Posted July 19, 2007 Author Share #32 Posted July 19, 2007 Howard - many congratulations! Jaap: My technique for moving objects: Pre-focus on the expected spot. Watch the object as it moves into the viewfinder. Follow-focus minimally with small taps left and right. Release a few milliseconds before it flies into the focal plane. And- use the magnifier.... All good - the problem I find is with distant objects where the difference between "a long way off" and infinity is a bit of a problem. The heron shots below are NOT what I'd normally be interested in doing, but the image sort of works, and I did manage to nail 1 shot - the others were all soft... not the len's fault - simply the problem of working out if the RF was focused correctly or not. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/29203-m8-135-apo-telyt-rocks/?do=findComment&comment=309756'>More sharing options...
luigi bertolotti Posted July 19, 2007 Share #33 Posted July 19, 2007 Howard, REALLY the old Hektor 13,5 ? Fantastic : I have one but I did not try to use it on M8... fear of disillusion... I have the TE 135 too, but my Hektor is chrome... like so much that finishing... I am going to use it too. And to all M8 owners that are uncertain about having or not a 135 : the old Hektor is absoloutely one of the cheapest lensses to find... produced in thosands and thousands... can find items for sale everywhere. IMHO, better to find the postwar coated with E39 filter, so it's easy to have the UVIR Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hdrmd Posted July 19, 2007 Share #34 Posted July 19, 2007 Chris: I have not noticed the discrepancy in focusing at a distance and at infinity. I like the idea of this thread about 135's. This an extra threat to have in the camera bag with the effective focal length of 180mm. I too shot a blue heron, almost by accident, during a round of golf. This is the APO 3.4 version, but I have an old 4.0 tele-Elmarit that is quite sharp. Let's see a few more telephoto photos. Regards. DR Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/29203-m8-135-apo-telyt-rocks/?do=findComment&comment=309885'>More sharing options...
geoffreyg Posted July 20, 2007 Share #35 Posted July 20, 2007 Any one try the Elmarit with the goggles? Might it work to help the focusing, but is it just too awkward? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricC Posted July 20, 2007 Share #36 Posted July 20, 2007 did you now, Eric? Congratulations! Hope you have a visoflex and bellows to really get he most out of it. ;>) best....Peter Thanks Peter, however this is the version directly prior to the Apo 3.4 version and the head is not removable, but it does have the built-in hood. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luigi bertolotti Posted July 20, 2007 Share #37 Posted July 20, 2007 Any one try the Elmarit with the goggles? Might it work to help the focusing, but is it just too awkward? I have one and tested it... if you've one is a solution that works well... and the TE 135 2,8 is the only 135 that Leica declares "supported" on M8: can even be coded, even if I think is not worth the cost (but if one is ready to a hand-make... has the pleasure to have the focal written in the EXIF). But if you haven't yet, I think that is not the best buy : TE 135 f4 performs better (I verified it) and surely so also the modern Apo Telyt 3,4 (that I have not), and besides this the 2,8 is bulk, rather heavy and not easy to carry and pack due to the goggles; the effect of the goggles is indeed appreciable... but IMHO not sufficient to balance the much more ease of the TE f4. BTW, when tested my 2,8 I had the impression of some little focusing problem... I wouldn't dare to use it at 2,8... maybe just a problem of my item (1st version knurled rings) but anyway I decide that my 135 for M8 shall be definitely the TE f4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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