Anyone frustrated with Noise Reduction

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Had my first try at long exposures with the M10 this morning...... absolute nightmare.

I tried taking a 4 minute exposure just before sun up and low and behold it was nearly 10 minutes before I could take the next picture.........I will stick with using the M10 as a walk about camera, and for anything else I will use something else.

Very frustrating

 

Neil

 

 

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[250swb]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slow_movement_(culture)

Chill, look around you, contemplate, after all, you may already have wasted four minutes, so what's the rush to waste another four minutes? Such is the way long exposure photography 😁

[Gelatino]

Neil, show us the picture you took and some "like" will erase your frusrtration.

This morning you learned that a M (10) is not a all duty camera.

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30 minutes ago, 250swb said:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slow_movement_(culture)

Chill, look around you, contemplate, after all, you may already have wasted four minutes, so what's the rush to waste another four minutes? Such is the way long exposure photography 😁

No its not.....not with real camears.

Neil

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12 minutes ago, Gelatino said:

Neil, show us the picture you took and some "like" will erase your frusrtration.

This morning you learned that a M (10) is not a all duty camera.

Correct its not.....its a great walk about camera, much moor than than its not

 

Neil young

[Gelatino]

3 minutes ago, NW67 said:

Correct its not.....its a great walk about camera, much moor than than its not

 

Neil young

You rejuvenate?

[pedaes]

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You will be even more frustrated with the results without noice reduction. 

[MarkP]

4 hours ago, NW67 said:

Had my first try at long exposures with the M10 this morning...... absolute nightmare.

I tried taking a 4 minute exposure just before sun up and low and behold it was nearly 10 minutes before I could take the next picture.........I will stick with using the M10 as a walk about camera, and for anything else I will use something else.

Very frustrating

 

Neil

 

 

Eh! Four minute exposure + 4 Minute NR

That means it was only four minutes form the end of your exposure until you could take the next one.

Where did 10 minutes come from Neil? You can't start complain about the 10 minute clock (actually 4+4+8) from the beginning of the exposure you set for 4 minutes.

 

Having said that the mandatory LENR pisses me off when standing about in the cold at some ridiculous time of night.

 

[Photon42]

The Hassys don't have the mandatory LENR. Seems like a proper case for the X1D.

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5 minutes ago, Photon42 said:

The Hassys don't have the mandatory LENR. Seems like a proper case for the X1D.

Boring

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48 minutes ago, MarkP said:

Eh! Four minute exposure + 4 Minute NR

That means it was only four minutes form the end of your exposure until you could take the next one.

Where did 10 minutes come from Neil? You can't start complain about the 10 minute clock (actually 4+4+8) from the beginning of the exposure you set for 4 minutes.

 

Having said that the mandatory LENR pisses me off when standing about in the cold at some ridiculous time of night.

 

Sorry but your full os. 4 plus's 4 equal 8 minimum

Neill

4 +4 plus

[MarkP]

sorry typo in earlier post corrected 4+4=8

 

No, it's second for second.

Edited November 1, 2018 by MarkP

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13 hours ago, pedaes said:

You will be even more frustrated with the results without noice reduction. 

I might be wrong but I don't recall my Nikon cameras having this noise reduction........all of my other cameras don't have it also so not sure what it actually does.......what does it do?

Neil

[indergaard]

25 minutes ago, NW67 said:

I might be wrong but I don't recall my Nikon cameras having this noise reduction........all of my other cameras don't have it also so not sure what it actually does.......what does it do?

Neil

Remove noise. Sorry, I couldn’t resist

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2 hours ago, indergaard said:

Remove noise. Sorry, I couldn’t resist

I think I got that.......but why don't others use it, is it something exclusive to Leica that Leica have a patient for it, as I don't see my other images shot on different brands of camera having noise in there images shot at over 1 second?

Neil

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19 hours ago, Gelatino said:

Neil, show us the picture you took and some "like" will erase your frusrtration.

This morning you learned that a M (10) is not a all duty camera.

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[tobey bilek]

I wonder if they could just patent an off switch.  NR best done with edge masks so the image stays sharp.

[250swb]

9 hours ago, NW67 said:

I might be wrong but I don't recall my Nikon cameras having this noise reduction........all of my other cameras don't have it also so not sure what it actually does.......what does it do?

Neil

It searches for hot pixels caused by the long exposure and removes them. It works by making an equivalent dark frame exposure, the extra 4 minutes, which finds the pixels that heat up. Of course different camera manufacturers use different methods for when and how it is applied, and it is an ever changing design philosophy with articles posted a year ago being quickly superseded by better software and sensors. In some older Nikon and Canon cameras the noise reduction actually made the image worse with very long exposures, but not so now, so it is important to keep an eye on when an article was posted. I've used my M10 with eight minute exposures and the image is perfect.

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6 minutes ago, 250swb said:

It searches for hot pixels caused by the long exposure and removes them. It works by making an equivalent dark frame exposure, the extra 4 minutes, which finds the pixels that heat up. Of course different camera manufacturers use different methods for when and how it is applied, and it is an ever changing design philosophy with articles posted a year ago being quickly superseded by better software and sensors. In some older Nikon and Canon cameras the noise reduction actually made the image worse with very long exposures, but not so now, so it is important to keep an eye on when an article was posted. I've used my M10 with eight minute exposures and the image is perfect.

Thanks for the explanation

Ne